I thought his name was Michael...

On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 18:26, Richard Stovall <[email protected]> wrote:
> Roger.  Thanks.
>
> On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 9:09 PM, Michael B. Smith <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>>
>> Yes.  And because Exchange no longer requires NetBIOS, you also have a
>> dependency on the forest name - if you want to set up the same server
>> environment.
>>
>> Simple recovery just requires matching the orgName.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Richard Stovall [mailto:[email protected]]
>> Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2012 8:58 PM
>> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
>> Subject: Re: Issues snapshotting virtual Exchange servers in DAG?
>>
>> This is going to have to be a DR exercise for me sometime soon...
>>
>> Say you loose everything, including AD, but have Exchange db backups made
>> from Windows Server Backup.  Does 2010 have 2003's reliance on a like-named
>> Exchange Org. in order to restore a backed up Exchange db?
>>
>> (I hope that made sense...)
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 8:44 PM, Michael B. Smith <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> > As of 2007 Sp2, AD contains most attributes associated with exchange,
>> > excepting those stored in the so-called “IIS metabase”. Those are
>> > included in a system-state backup.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > So… you install an OS, restore the system state backup, and the only
>> > thing else you have to do is reseed the DB copy. In 25 words or less.
>> > :-P
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > From: Sobey, Richard A [mailto:[email protected]]
>> > Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2012 4:46 PM
>> > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
>> > Subject: RE: Issues snapshotting virtual Exchange servers in DAG?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > I can’t get my head round the advantages of a system state backup vs.
>> > just reinstalling the OS and then Exchange in recovery mode. Is it
>> > just a time issue or is there genuinely some data that must be
>> > restored? Personally, I’ve recovered mailbox servers by just
>> > reinstalling and configuring the OS and then plonking Exchange on top.
>> > Seemed to work fine (Ex 2007 standalone).
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > (Or were you simply talking about EDB backups with 2 or fewer database
>> > copies?)
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > From: [email protected]
>> > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
>> > Of Michael B. Smith
>> > Sent: 22 March 2012 18:36
>> > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
>> > Subject: RE: Issues snapshotting virtual Exchange servers in DAG?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Unless you’ve got 3 copies of your data, I’d recommend doing SOME
>> > backup.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Servers that are members of a DAG are slightly more complicated than
>> > just /recoverserver, but it isn’t a huge deal. Personally, I just do a
>> > system-state backup from within the VM. It’s much smaller than
>> > snapping the entire VM, no delays are involved, and the recovery
>> > process is pretty trivial.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:[email protected]]
>> > Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2012 1:32 PM
>> > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
>> > Subject: RE: Issues snapshotting virtual Exchange servers in DAG?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Oddly I can't find an article on his blog using anything obvious (to
>> > me), did find this though:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > http://internationalmanofawesome.wordpress.com/2011/08/05/decreasing-e
>> > xchange-2010-dag-failover-sensitivity-by-increasing-cluster-timeout-va
>> > lues/
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > My next question was going to be whether it's worth doing VM level
>> > backups to start with, particularly with a DAG?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > AIUI so long as you have a good copy of the databases it's a "simple"
>> > matter of standing up a new server and re-installing Exchange with
>> > /recoverserver - but I don't have the experience to know if this is
>> > likely to be more pleasant than trying to use a snapshot as in our
>> > case our databases/logs are on iSCSI volumes mounted within the guest,
>> > so snapshotting the VM would just get us a bootable OS.
>> >
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