Is it safe to asusme that if you don't have a DAG but just have two
seperate servers hosting all roles (excluding UM), you can then reinstall
the OS, resotre system state and run /recoverserver?


On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 11:58 PM, Kurt Buff <[email protected]> wrote:

> I thought his name was Michael...
>
> On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 18:26, Richard Stovall <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Roger.  Thanks.
> >
> > On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 9:09 PM, Michael B. Smith <[email protected]
> >
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Yes.  And because Exchange no longer requires NetBIOS, you also have a
> >> dependency on the forest name - if you want to set up the same server
> >> environment.
> >>
> >> Simple recovery just requires matching the orgName.
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Richard Stovall [mailto:[email protected]]
> >> Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2012 8:58 PM
> >> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> >> Subject: Re: Issues snapshotting virtual Exchange servers in DAG?
> >>
> >> This is going to have to be a DR exercise for me sometime soon...
> >>
> >> Say you loose everything, including AD, but have Exchange db backups
> made
> >> from Windows Server Backup.  Does 2010 have 2003's reliance on a
> like-named
> >> Exchange Org. in order to restore a backed up Exchange db?
> >>
> >> (I hope that made sense...)
> >>
> >> On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 8:44 PM, Michael B. Smith <
> [email protected]>
> >> wrote:
> >> > As of 2007 Sp2, AD contains most attributes associated with exchange,
> >> > excepting those stored in the so-called “IIS metabase”. Those are
> >> > included in a system-state backup.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > So… you install an OS, restore the system state backup, and the only
> >> > thing else you have to do is reseed the DB copy. In 25 words or less.
> >> > :-P
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > From: Sobey, Richard A [mailto:[email protected]]
> >> > Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2012 4:46 PM
> >> > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> >> > Subject: RE: Issues snapshotting virtual Exchange servers in DAG?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > I can’t get my head round the advantages of a system state backup vs.
> >> > just reinstalling the OS and then Exchange in recovery mode. Is it
> >> > just a time issue or is there genuinely some data that must be
> >> > restored? Personally, I’ve recovered mailbox servers by just
> >> > reinstalling and configuring the OS and then plonking Exchange on top.
> >> > Seemed to work fine (Ex 2007 standalone).
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > (Or were you simply talking about EDB backups with 2 or fewer database
> >> > copies?)
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > From: [email protected]
> >> > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
> >> > Of Michael B. Smith
> >> > Sent: 22 March 2012 18:36
> >> > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> >> > Subject: RE: Issues snapshotting virtual Exchange servers in DAG?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Unless you’ve got 3 copies of your data, I’d recommend doing SOME
> >> > backup.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Servers that are members of a DAG are slightly more complicated than
> >> > just /recoverserver, but it isn’t a huge deal. Personally, I just do a
> >> > system-state backup from within the VM. It’s much smaller than
> >> > snapping the entire VM, no delays are involved, and the recovery
> >> > process is pretty trivial.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:[email protected]]
> >> > Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2012 1:32 PM
> >> > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> >> > Subject: RE: Issues snapshotting virtual Exchange servers in DAG?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Oddly I can't find an article on his blog using anything obvious (to
> >> > me), did find this though:
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> http://internationalmanofawesome.wordpress.com/2011/08/05/decreasing-e
> >> > xchange-2010-dag-failover-sensitivity-by-increasing-cluster-timeout-va
> >> > lues/
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > My next question was going to be whether it's worth doing VM level
> >> > backups to start with, particularly with a DAG?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > AIUI so long as you have a good copy of the databases it's a "simple"
> >> > matter of standing up a new server and re-installing Exchange with
> >> > /recoverserver - but I don't have the experience to know if this is
> >> > likely to be more pleasant than trying to use a snapshot as in our
> >> > case our databases/logs are on iSCSI volumes mounted within the guest,
> >> > so snapshotting the VM would just get us a bootable OS.
> >> >
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