Wow.

Please accept my most sincere condolences.


On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 8:56 PM, Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife <
[email protected]> wrote:

>  Oh no, Michael, in all seriousness, my sarcasm was not, nor would it
> ever be, directed towards you personally.  You have saved my bacon more
> than once, and are very much appreciated.****
>
> ** **
>
> I think some of my frustration is with the project that we in the State of
> California are being forced into.  The original intent was to consolidate
> e-mail for the entire state, and to cut costs of each department running
> their own.  Great idea.  However, implementation is a nightmare.  Microsoft
> O365 is what we’re going to, but here’s the catch.  They are treating the
> entire state as one company.  The problem with that, is that we are about
> 160 separate departments, each with our own users, etc.  So, when you treat
> us as one company, how do you allow, for instance, me, to manage my users
> within Exchange.  If you give me access to EMC, EMS or ECP, then I can make
> changes that could potentially affect other departments as well as my own.
> Well, we can’t have that.  So they’re taking that access away from all
> departmental Exchange Admins.  For me to create a mailbox, I have to go
> into ADUC, and use the Attribute Editor, and manually manipulate about 6 or
> 7 different attributes.  An automatic sync happens every 30 minutes, and
> the creation gets processed back at Microsoft, in either San Antonio, or
> Chicago.  Which could take up to a few hours.  If I make a typo during that
> process?  Well, I have to fix it, and wait another few hours for the
> process to happen again.****
>
> ** **
>
> They are giving us a very rudimentary “admin” interface, in which we can
> do about 10 different things:****
>
> ** **
>
> Export a mailbox to PST****
>
> Add/Remove Mailbox Permission****
>
> Add/Remove Delegate****
>
> Activesync – Enable/Disable****
>
> Activesync – Apply Policy****
>
> OWA – Enable/Disable****
>
> Apply Retention Policy****
>
> Group Admin  (create or modify cross-forest distribution lists)****
>
> Live Meeting Admin – If you paid for this service (we did not)****
>
> Contact Admin – allows us to add, edit or delete Contacts within the
> system.****
>
> ** **
>
> That’s it.  That’s what I can directly affect.  Anything beyond that, I
> have to call the Helpdesk for the mail system, and wait.  The SLA’s vary,
> but with the track record of the organization that’s actually going to be
> doing the work, the wait time will be hours, days and for some things
> possibly weeks.****
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> Oh, and as far as saving money?  Umm, no.  We’re not completely in the
> system yet, but I’ve spoken to someone who’s department is, and he’s saying
> his costs went from about 30k per year for running Exchange in-house, to a
> cool half million now.****
>
> ** **
>
> Yippee!****
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* Michael B. Smith [mailto:[email protected]]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 06, 2013 12:59 PM
>
> *To:* Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife; MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Reconnect Exchange 2010 mailbox****
>
>  ** **
>
> I appreciate the irony. But please do not shoot the messenger. J****
>
> ** **
>
> Also, Clean-MailboxDatabase does not perform well “at scale”. In
> Microsoft’s perspective that means, when you have mailbox databases
> containing many thousands of mailboxes.****
>
> ** **
>
> That being said, there _*IS*_ a way in Exchange 2013 to simulate
> Clean-MailboxDatabase and have it perform well at scale. Whenever I have a
> few minutes, I plan on writing it up. J****
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife 
> [mailto:[email protected]<[email protected]>]
>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 6, 2013 12:38 PM
> *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Reconnect Exchange 2010 mailbox****
>
> ** **
>
> Now that’s funny.  Exchange is “supposed” to be smart enough, so whether
> it is or not, we’re going to take away the tool you could use to make sure
> it happens…****
>
> ** **
>
> Awesome.****
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* Michael B. Smith [mailto:michael@smithconscom<[email protected]>]
>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 05, 2013 6:19 AM
> *To:* Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife; MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Reconnect Exchange 2010 mailbox****
>
>  ** **
>
> Theoretically, you should never HAVE to run the cmdlet. Exchange is
> supposed to be smart enough to do this for you
>
> That is why the cmdlet is gone in Exchange 2013.
>
> Sent from my Windows Phone****
>
>   ------------------------------
>
> *From: *Guyer, Don
> *Sent: *2/5/2013 3:54 PM
> *To: *MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> *Subject: *RE: Reconnect Exchange 2010 mailbox****
>
> When you run this command, aren't you just forcing  it to run right away
> so you don't have to wait until it runs when scheduled? We do this all the
> time with Xch2k7.
>
> That's the way I always understood it. Unless 2010 is different...
>
> Educate me as necessary.
>
> : )
>
> Regards,
>
> Don Guyer
> Catholic Health East - Information Technology
> Enterprise Directory & Messaging Services
> 3805 West Chester Pike, Suite 100, Newtown Square, Pa  19073
> email: [email protected]
> Office:  610.550.3595 | Cell: 610.955.6528 | Fax: 610.271.9440
> For immediate assistance, please open a Service Desk ticket or call the
> helpdesk @ 610-492-3839.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tom Miller [mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>]
> Sent: Monday, February 04, 2013 4:10 PM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Reconnect Exchange 2010 mailbox
>
> That was it.  I saw in an MS support forum that the Clean-Mailboxdatabase
> db_name is needed for immediate access.  Supposedly fixed in the current
> rollup (I'm not on it).
>
> Thank you,
> Tom
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rupprecht, James R. [mailto:[email protected]<[email protected]>]
>
> Sent: Monday, February 04, 2013 1:18 PM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Reconnect Exchange 2010 mailbox
>
> Run Clean-MailboxDatabase against the database that hosts the reconnected
> mailbox.
>
> Jim Rupprecht
> KU Information Technology
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Tom Miller [mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>]
> Sent: Monday, February 04, 2013 11:40 AM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: Reconnect Exchange 2010 mailbox
>
> We have an account that was disabled accidentally.  I recreated the
> account in ADUC, and used the "reconnect" option in the EMC.  However, when
> I go into the account on OWA, the web page states that the account is
> disabled, but it is not.  Anyone have any suggestions?
>
> Tom
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