Kurt, It's a massive waste of taxpayer's money. I've written both of my representatives about it.
-----Original Message----- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2013 10:29 PM To: Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife; MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Reconnect Exchange 2010 mailbox While we don't have the full budgeting picture, it sounds like the classic "Penny wise and pound foolish". Kurt On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 5:56 PM, Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife <[email protected]> wrote: > Oh no, Michael, in all seriousness, my sarcasm was not, nor would it > ever be, directed towards you personally. You have saved my bacon > more than once, and are very much appreciated. > > > > I think some of my frustration is with the project that we in the > State of California are being forced into. The original intent was to > consolidate e-mail for the entire state, and to cut costs of each > department running their own. Great idea. However, implementation is > a nightmare. Microsoft > O365 is what we’re going to, but here’s the catch. They are treating > the entire state as one company. The problem with that, is that we > are about > 160 separate departments, each with our own users, etc. So, when you > treat us as one company, how do you allow, for instance, me, to manage > my users within Exchange. If you give me access to EMC, EMS or ECP, > then I can make changes that could potentially affect other departments as > well as my own. > Well, we can’t have that. So they’re taking that access away from all > departmental Exchange Admins. For me to create a mailbox, I have to > go into ADUC, and use the Attribute Editor, and manually manipulate > about 6 or 7 different attributes. An automatic sync happens every 30 > minutes, and the creation gets processed back at Microsoft, in either > San Antonio, or Chicago. Which could take up to a few hours. If I > make a typo during that process? Well, I have to fix it, and wait > another few hours for the process to happen again. > > > > They are giving us a very rudimentary “admin” interface, in which we > can do about 10 different things: > > > > Export a mailbox to PST > > Add/Remove Mailbox Permission > > Add/Remove Delegate > > Activesync – Enable/Disable > > Activesync – Apply Policy > > OWA – Enable/Disable > > Apply Retention Policy > > Group Admin (create or modify cross-forest distribution lists) > > Live Meeting Admin – If you paid for this service (we did not) > > Contact Admin – allows us to add, edit or delete Contacts within the system. > > > > That’s it. That’s what I can directly affect. Anything beyond that, > I have to call the Helpdesk for the mail system, and wait. The SLA’s > vary, but with the track record of the organization that’s actually > going to be doing the work, the wait time will be hours, days and for > some things possibly weeks. > > > > > > Oh, and as far as saving money? Umm, no. We’re not completely in the > system yet, but I’ve spoken to someone who’s department is, and he’s > saying his costs went from about 30k per year for running Exchange > in-house, to a cool half million now. > > > > Yippee! > > > > > > From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2013 12:59 PM > To: Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife; MS-Exchange Admin Issues > Subject: RE: Reconnect Exchange 2010 mailbox > > > > I appreciate the irony. But please do not shoot the messenger. J > > > > Also, Clean-MailboxDatabase does not perform well “at scale”. In > Microsoft’s perspective that means, when you have mailbox databases > containing many thousands of mailboxes. > > > > That being said, there _IS_ a way in Exchange 2013 to simulate > Clean-MailboxDatabase and have it perform well at scale. Whenever I > have a few minutes, I plan on writing it up. J > > > > > > From: Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Wednesday, February 6, 2013 12:38 PM > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > Subject: RE: Reconnect Exchange 2010 mailbox > > > > Now that’s funny. Exchange is “supposed” to be smart enough, so > whether it is or not, we’re going to take away the tool you could use > to make sure it happens… > > > > Awesome. > > > > From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:michael@smithconscom] > Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2013 6:19 AM > To: Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife; MS-Exchange Admin Issues > Subject: RE: Reconnect Exchange 2010 mailbox > > > > Theoretically, you should never HAVE to run the cmdlet. Exchange is > supposed to be smart enough to do this for you > > That is why the cmdlet is gone in Exchange 2013. > > Sent from my Windows Phone > > ________________________________ > > From: Guyer, Don > Sent: 2/5/2013 3:54 PM > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > Subject: RE: Reconnect Exchange 2010 mailbox > > When you run this command, aren't you just forcing it to run right > away so you don't have to wait until it runs when scheduled? We do > this all the time with Xch2k7. > > That's the way I always understood it. Unless 2010 is different... > > Educate me as necessary. > > : ) > > Regards, > > Don Guyer > Catholic Health East - Information Technology Enterprise Directory & > Messaging Services > 3805 West Chester Pike, Suite 100, Newtown Square, Pa 19073 > email: [email protected] > Office: 610.550.3595 | Cell: 610.955.6528 | Fax: 610.271.9440 For > immediate assistance, please open a Service Desk ticket or call the > helpdesk @ 610-492-3839. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Tom Miller [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Monday, February 04, 2013 4:10 PM > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > Subject: RE: Reconnect Exchange 2010 mailbox > > That was it. I saw in an MS support forum that the > Clean-Mailboxdatabase db_name is needed for immediate access. > Supposedly fixed in the current rollup (I'm not on it). > > Thank you, > Tom > > -----Original Message----- > From: Rupprecht, James R. [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Monday, February 04, 2013 1:18 PM > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > Subject: RE: Reconnect Exchange 2010 mailbox > > Run Clean-MailboxDatabase against the database that hosts the > reconnected mailbox. > > Jim Rupprecht > KU Information Technology > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Tom Miller [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Monday, February 04, 2013 11:40 AM > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > Subject: Reconnect Exchange 2010 mailbox > > We have an account that was disabled accidentally. I recreated the > account in ADUC, and used the "reconnect" option in the EMC. However, > when I go into the account on OWA, the web page states that the > account is disabled, but it is not. 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