OK, here they are (one of the differences is the @kormar.net (from Outlook)
and @kormar.de (from Thunderbird) addresses, but I don't see where that
could matter)...
sent from Outlook 2000, to hotmail.com, and lands in "Junk E-Mail" folder -
X-Message-Status: n
X-SID-PRA: Robert Cates <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
X-SID-Result: TempError
X-Message-Info: 6sSXyD95QpV7hJMl6RUn5oowTEbAWxxK5Y1wABqZj/o=
Received: from mail.kormar.net ([217.91.111.75]) by mc3-f2.hotmail.com with
Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211);
Thu, 10 Nov 2005 12:29:07 -0800
Received: from tiger.kormar.net ([192.168.1.13] helo=tiger)
by mail.kormar.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:RC4-MD5:128)
(Exim 4.54)
id 1EaJ2f-0000cL-Hd
for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 10 Nov 2005 21:29:05 +0100
Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: "Robert Cates" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Cates, Robert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: test message
Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 21:29:11 +0100
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain;
charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0)
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2670
Importance: Normal
X-Spam_score: -2.8
X-Spam_score_int: -27
X-Spam_bar: --
X-Spam_report: Spam detection software, running on the system
"mail.kormar.net", has
identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message
has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label
similar future email. If you have any questions, see
the administrator of that system for details.
Content preview: This is just a test message. Me [...]
Content analysis details: (-2.8 points, 5.0 required)
pts rule name description
---- ----------------------
-----------------------------------------------
---
-2.8 ALL_TRUSTED Did not pass through any untrusted hosts
Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Nov 2005 20:29:08.0299 (UTC)
FILETIME=[66D7A1B0:01C5E635]
This is just a test message.
Me
sent from Thunderbird 1.0.7, to hotmail.com, and lands in "Inbox" -
X-Message-Status: n
X-SID-PRA: Robert Cates <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
X-SID-Result: TempError
X-Message-Info: 6sSXyD95QpUj2N0Ii6Ic2HSHg7kmXNyoNMbWP+pt5ZM=
Received: from mail.kormar.net ([217.91.111.75]) by mc9-f42.hotmail.com with
Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211);
Thu, 10 Nov 2005 12:31:29 -0800
Received: from fluffy.kormar.net ([192.168.1.15])
by mail.kormar.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256)
(Exim 4.54)
id 1EaJ4x-0000ca-Ai
for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 10 Nov 2005 21:31:27 +0100
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 21:31:21 +0100
From: Robert Cates <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7-1.1.fc4 (X11/20050929)
X-Accept-Language: en-us, en
MIME-Version: 1.0
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: test message
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Spam_score: -2.8
X-Spam_score_int: -27
X-Spam_bar: --
X-Spam_report: Spam detection software, running on the system
"mail.kormar.net", has
identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message
has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label
similar future email. If you have any questions, see
the administrator of that system for details.
Content preview: This is just a test message. Me [...]
Content analysis details: (-2.8 points, 5.0 required)
pts rule name description
---- ----------------------
-----------------------------------------------
---
-2.8 ALL_TRUSTED Did not pass through any untrusted hosts
Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Nov 2005 20:31:30.0388 (UTC)
FILETIME=[BB88B140:01C5E635]
This is just a test message.
Me
here is my exim log entries for the sending of the 2 above messages, first
from Outlook, then from Thunderbird -
2005-11-10 21:29:05 1EaJ2f-0000cL-Hd <= [EMAIL PROTECTED] H=tiger.kormar.net
(tiger) [192.168.1.13] P=esmtpsa X=TLSv1:RC4-MD5:128 A=login:robcat S=1452
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
2005-11-10 21:29:08 1EaJ2f-0000cL-Hd => [EMAIL PROTECTED] R=dnslookup
T=remote_smtp H=mx3.hotmail.com [64.4.50.239]
2005-11-10 21:29:08 1EaJ2f-0000cL-Hd Completed
2005-11-10 21:31:27 1EaJ4x-0000ca-Ai <= [EMAIL PROTECTED] H=fluffy.kormar.net
[192.168.1.15] P=esmtpsa X=TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256 A=plain:robcat S=1319
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
2005-11-10 21:31:30 1EaJ4x-0000ca-Ai => [EMAIL PROTECTED] R=dnslookup
T=remote_smtp H=mx1.hotmail.com [65.54.166.99]
2005-11-10 21:31:30 1EaJ4x-0000ca-Ai Completed
Thanks for your help!
Robert
-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Behalf Of Tony Finch
Sent: Donnerstag, 10. November 2005 10:58
To: Robert Cates
Cc: Exim, Users
Subject: Re: [exim] Unknown Sender
On Thu, 10 Nov 2005, Robert Cates wrote:
>
> I was wondering why mail delivered to a Hotmail.com account from my Exim
> 4.54 MTA arrives as "Unknown Sender" when sent from MS Outlook 2000 and
gets
> put in the "Junk Mail" folder, but when sent from Thunderbird 1.0.7 on a
> Fedora Core 4 machine sender is known and it gets put in the Inbox.
Try posting copies of the full headers of each message to this list.
> The Thunderbird client is setup to use IMAP-SSL, and Outlook 2000 is setup
> to use POP-SSL. Both are courier servers and configured essentially the
> same.
Message access has nothing to do with message submission.
> Can it have something to do with this?:
I doubt it.
Tony.
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