On Nov 18, 2005, at 6:59 PM, Jakob Hirsch wrote:

And for the poeple thinking the people here are rude (at the risk of
seeming inpolite): This is ridiculous. I'd really like to see some
examples.

I appreciate your differing point of view, I would like to point you to the mail archives however and ask you again if you feel that perhaps competent people have not been treated rather rudely.

Even if it were true, how should this be different on a
spin-off list? Anyway, this is not exim-cuddle.

No it is certainly not exim-cuddle. But nor is it exim-with-copious-amounts-of-misplaced-anger-aimed-at-people-who-don't- read-the-RFCs.

Providing a solution to
some stranger's problem should be polite enough and compensate the left
out "Dear.." and "Kind regards...". But maybe I'm also grumpy. Perhaps
it's Exim that makes people grumpy. In this case, it's better for people
not starting to use it. :)

I politely disagree. The point of this excellent peice of software is for people to use it. I appreciate that it is large and complex, but I see great good in more people being able to understand it. If exim4 were the main MTA on the internet;
                
                - we'd have less spam
                - mail administrators would be more productive
                - mission-critical infrastructure would be patent-free
- standards would be better implemented to allow for exim inter-operability I think exim can be run by nearly anyone, but it takes patience and help. I think of Richard Feynman, the great physicist who "took great care when explaining topics to his students, making it a moral point not to make a topic arcane, but accessible to others."[1] We should do that too.

Jeremiah Foster

[1]  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Feynman#fn_Bet91
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