Marc Sherman wrote:

> Marc Sherman wrote:
> 
>>W B Hacker wrote:
>>
>>>Ancient history now. Like it or not, we should move on and use 587.
>>
>>That's all well and good, Bill, and if you simply advised people not to
>>open port 465 at all, I wouldn't reply. It's your repeated advise to
>>people to open 465 for unencrypted/STARTTLS usage, against all
>>established historical practice, to which I object.
> 
> 
> Whoops, I guess I owe Bill a bit of an apology --

Accepted, thanks.

> I was mis-remembering
> history here. It's actually your repeated use of tls_on_connect on port
> 587 that so aggravates me.

'Repeated use' is not and was not a 'RECOMMENDATION'.

An illustration, observation, or comment on special-case utility is not a 
'recommendation' either.


> You're welcome to do whatever you want on
> your own server, but please do not advise others to configure
> tls_on_connect on port 587 on this list without clearly noting that you
> are doing something non-standard and against common practice.
> 

I haven't done so, and do not plan to start. It might irritate the pedantic.

> Anyway, sorry about the mixup.
> 
> - Marc
> 

Let's just stick with current IANA/IETF recommendations and leave history where 
it belongs.

Best,

Bill




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