--On 20 December 2007 11:39:54 -0800 Jeroen van Aart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:

> Phil (Medway Hosting) wrote:
>> It's not "collateral" spam. It's just plain "spam". That's the point I
>> would make to the powers that be !!
>
> It is not spam, because it is neither unsolicited (by emailing someone
> you allow them to respond, whether automated or not, I would say) nor
> bulk. You shouldn't just call something spam just because you don't like
> it: http://www.spamhaus.org/definition.html

You've missed the point. An OoO reply to a spam message will almost always 
go to an innocent third party, whose address was used by a spammer. If the 
spammer has used a single address for a large run of spam, then the owner 
of the address will typically get hit by thousands of DSN, OoO and other 
auto-replies.

If I send you a message, and I get an auto-reply from you, of course that's 
not spam. If I get 1000 autoreplies per day, in response to a message that 
I didn't send, then that's spam.

Phil's point about use of the word "collateral" is a good one. It's an 
abuse of the term, because it implies that the original spam message is 
hitting an unintended target. That's arguable not true with auto-replies - 
they're new messages. At best, the victim has been caught in cross-fire, 
but not by the original spammer.

>
> The vacation utility on unix seems smart enough to not be a nuissance
> and still be functional for those who need it.

It can be, if used with caution. You need to have a very good spam filter 
in front of it.

> Regards,
> Jeroen



-- 
Ian Eiloart
IT Services, University of Sussex
x3148

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