Hi,

I am trying to understand the reason why exim has decided to fail sender 
verification, so that I can say something to the sys admin at the
sending site. The 2 lines in the exim log file are below, I have difficulty 
understanding them because there are so many
different machines mentioned. I have not tried to obscure the sites since that 
might destroy the understanding.

        2008-09-26 10:40:09 H=mr40-iz.mailpoalim.co.il (mr40.mailpoalim.co.il) 
[212.68.154.40] sender verify fail for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: response to "MAIL 
FROM:<>" from mr51-iz.mailpoalim.co.il [212.68.154.51] was: 501 Empty sender 
address is not allowed
        2008-09-26 10:40:09 H=mr40-iz.mailpoalim.co.il (mr40.mailpoalim.co.il) 
[212.68.154.40] F=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> rejected RCPT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Sender 
verify failed

So, I deduce:
* mr40-iz.mailpoalim.co.il is the verified name of the machine that connecte to 
my client's server, it has the IP address 212.68.154.40
* mr40.mailpoalim.co.il is the name that was given in the HELO line
* mr51-iz.mailpoalim.co.il is 212.68.154.51, this is the first listed MX for 
bhimail.co.uk

It is not clear to me which machine is saying: ''Empty sender address is not 
allowed'' - I think mr51-iz.mailpoalim.co.il

I think that what is happening is that exim is connecting to 
mr51-iz.mailpoalim.co.il to see if it will accept mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
and as part of it sends:
        MAIL FROM:<>            
which mr51-iz.mailpoalim.co.il objects to. Which suggests that that machine 
will not accept bounces.


So, I can either:

1) tell the sysadmins that look after mr51-iz.mailpoalim.co.il to fix their 
machines

2) fix my machine so that in acl_check_rcpt I have:
        require verify = sender/[EMAIL PROTECTED]

3) fix my machine as (2) but only for certain domains:

        require sender_domains = lsearch;/etc/exim/WontTakeBounces
                verify = sender/[EMAIL PROTECTED]

        require sender_domains = !lsearch;/etc/exim/WontTakeBounces
                verify = sender/[EMAIL PROTECTED]


Which would be better and why ?

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Alain Williams
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Lecturer.
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