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> From: W B Hacker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2008 4:57:43 AM
> Subject: Re: [exim] noreplys...
> 
> Oliver von Bueren wrote:
> 
> > A clean way without any risk is probably not possible. If you have a 
> > list of members and only inform them if they send a message to the 
> > noreply@ address, this reduces the risk quite a lot. But then why would 
> > you want to do that if you can limit the senders which can send you mail 
> > to that email address then anyway? It only annoys to do it through a web 
> > page and not just use regular email to get in contact with a company one 
> > does business with anyway.
> >
> 
> A 'reasonably clean' way - presuming one is already running a Mailing 
> List Manager, is to establish a specialized internal list with at least 
> your 'responsible party' as a member, and at most, a team of several 
> folks, such as sales or helpdesk staff.
> 
> IF the 'main' list(s) are set closed, optionally 'no post' (outbound 
> only), AND the messages show the 'internal' list address as the from and 
> reply-to, AND the internal list allows members of the main list(s) to 
> post to it...
> 
> THEN you'll have a valid address to the smtp world, YET handle any 
> restrictions (such as 'must be a member of ..' within your MLM, rahter 
> than askign Exim to make the choices.
> 
> Not a great deal more work can insure that a closed-post list is not 
> abused for backscatter bouncing of spam.
> 
> As always, there should also be a working postmaster@ for each domain, 
> but the above trick will at least separate membership traffic into a 
> separately managed category, making it easier to keep the member on-side.
> 
> > To implement such a solution, you'd probably have to build some ACL  for 
> > the RCPT part to only accept messages to that address from a list of 
> > given sender addresses and then implement the autoreply. For some 
> > examples of autoreply check out this faq wiki entry:
> > http://wiki.exim.org/EximAutoReply
> > 
> > For the ACL in the acl_smtp_rcpt part you could start with something 
> > like this... (not tested!)
> > 
> >    deny    message      = This address can only be used by registered 
> > members.
> >            recipients   = [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >            senders      = ! /list/to/addresses
> > 
> > This causes a message sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] not coming from an 
> > address listed in the file (one address per line) to be rejected with 
> > the given reason.
> >
> 
> .. essentially duplicating what the MLM (as above) can do, and arguably 
> earlier in the process and more efficiently.
> 
> HOWEVER - any MLM still has a lage set of other handling options, many 
> of them menu/box-tick configurable. Chief among these is simply the 
> management of subscribe+confirm and unsubscribe properly, auto-pruning 
> members who cannot be reached after 'n' attempts over 't' time, etc.
> 
> Well-known behaviour patterns, ease of admin, and active admin/developer 
> groups are good reasons to use an MLM rather than reinvent one within Exim.
> 
> YMMV,
> 
> Bill Hacker
> 
> > This is not fool prof either, as the sender address can always be forged.
> > 
> > Oliver

Thanks to both of you.
I wonder if it would be possible to sign a part of the email in order to verify 
that the reply is an authentic one...
We will have to spend some time on the subject I guess...

Thx again,
JD


      


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