Renee wrote: > Thanks Ian & Bill, for your advice. > > Bill- I think I'm okay under the scenarios you listed in "A". "B" could be > a different story...? My un-obfuscated logs, below, with "log_selector > +all" should be able to shed more light on this subject. > > I did a few different tests this morning. Two from alpine on both the > localhost (cielo) and another host within my control that has alpine > configured to look to cielo. I won't post the log from the latter, as it is > essentially the same, just a different sending host. I also did some tests > from webmail (squirrelmail) and thunderbird to show the difference. I'll > just post the log from thunderbird. > > It appears that there are two extra lines in the alpine output logging that > aren't displayed when using thunderbird, etc.. First the "relay not > permitted" line, then an "incomplete transaction" statement. > > Also, since I first posted, I've added mailscanner back into the loop, but > I've already confirmed that the same problem occurs with and without > mailscanner's involvement. > > alpine: > 2009-05-01 10:49:47 [3958] SMTP connection from [129.24.125.136]:33508 > I=[129.24.125.136]:587 (TCP/IP connection count = 1) > 2009-05-01 10:49:47 [4062] H=cielo.unm.edu [129.24.125.136]:33508 > I=[129.24.125.136]:587 F=<[email protected]> rejected RCPT < > [email protected]>: relay not permitted > 2009-05-01 10:49:47 [4062] H=cielo.unm.edu [129.24.125.136]:33508 > I=[129.24.125.136]:587 incomplete transaction (RSET) from < > [email protected]>
Here's your first clue ... > 2009-05-01 10:49:47 [4062] 1Lzvvn-00013W-Of "[email protected]" from > env-from rewritten as "[email protected]" by submission mode > 2009-05-01 10:49:47 [4062] 1Lzvvn-00013W-Of <= [email protected] H= > cielo.unm.edu [129.24.125.136]:33508 I=[129.24.125.136]:587 P=esmtpsa > X=TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256 CV=no A=dovecot_plain:obscure S=571 id= > [email protected] T="test from alpine" from < > [email protected]> for [email protected] > 2009-05-01 10:49:47 [4062] SMTP connection from > cielo.unm.edu[129.24.125.136]:33508 I=[129.24.125.136]:587 closed by > QUIT ..and the second. Per Ian's post - your alpine is connecting twice. On the first go, it is not paying attention to the advertised HELO/EHLO and negotiating a TLS-protected session as it should do. tcpdump will probably show a GNU sitting in thin air ....with its finger up its nose... ;-) alpine then tries again - this time willing to use TLS - and suceeds. Per the UW docs for alpine, that is bass-ackwards of the described default behaviour when port 587 (and AUTH) is specified. http://www.washington.edu/alpine/tech-notes/config-notes.html If you cannot get that to configure and work correctly, and as you seem to be into antique collecting, 'mutt' may be easier to use than pine/alpine. If you have a machine of your own with a GUI, SeaMonkey, Thundermug, Opera's mail, Sylpheed Claws-mail... ..many 'cross-platform' choices there. If you have no machine but the server, and must use whatever is at hand for a 'desktop', I'd suggest putting U Cambridge's 'Prayer' caching IMAP daemon on the server in front of Dovecot IMAP. Whatever https-capable browser you can find should work... I've tested that combo over high-latency US-HKG links almost exactly half-way 'round the globe. Configured to suit your taste, it can be good enough to not really miss a full-scale local MUA. > 2009-05-01 10:49:50 [4069] cwd=/var/spool/MailScanner/incoming/3969 5 args: > /usr/local/exim/bin/exim -C /usr/local/exim/etc/configure.out -Mc > 1Lzvvn-00013W-Of > 2009-05-01 10:49:51 [4069] 1Lzvvn-00013W-Of => [email protected] F=< > [email protected]> P=<[email protected]> > R=dnslookup_batv T=external_smtp_batv S=857 > H=gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[209.85.147.27]:25 C="250 2.0.0 OK > 1241196591 v9si4857027wah.1" QT=4s DT=1s > 2009-05-01 10:49:51 [4069] 1Lzvvn-00013W-Of Completed QT=4s > That part is irrelevant to the issue at hand... > thunderbird: > 2009-05-01 10:51:03 [3958] SMTP connection from [129.24.124.254]:50149 > I=[129.24.125.136]:587 (TCP/IP connection count = 1) > 2009-05-01 10:51:12 [4073] 1LzvxA-00013h-2e "[email protected]" from > env-from rewritten as "[email protected]" by submission mode > 2009-05-01 10:51:12 [4073] 1LzvxA-00013h-2e <= [email protected] H= > d00-129-24-124-254.dhcp.unm.edu [129.24.124.254]:50149 > I=[129.24.125.136]:587 P=esmtpsa X=TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256 CV=no > A=dovecot_plain:obscure S=603 [email protected] T="test from > thunderbird" from <[email protected]> for [email protected] Thundermug is set to use TLS and obeys that on the FIRST go. > 2009-05-01 10:51:12 [4073] SMTP connection from > d00-129-24-124-254.dhcp.unm.edu [129.24.124.254]:50149 > I=[129.24.125.136]:587 closed by QUIT > 2009-05-01 10:51:15 [4079] cwd=/var/spool/MailScanner/incoming/4013 5 args: > /usr/local/exim/bin/exim -C /usr/local/exim/etc/configure.out -Mc > 1LzvxA-00013h-2e > 2009-05-01 10:51:16 [4079] 1LzvxA-00013h-2e => [email protected] F=< > [email protected]> P=<[email protected]> > R=dnslookup_batv T=external_smtp_batv S=891 > H=gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[209.85.147.27]:25 C="250 2.0.0 OK > 1241196676 j15si4817136waf.64" QT=4s > DT=1s > 2009-05-01 10:51:16 [4079] 1LzvxA-00013h-2e Completed QT=4s Likewise irrelevant... Bill -- ## List details at http://lists.exim.org/mailman/listinfo/exim-users ## Exim details at http://www.exim.org/ ## Please use the Wiki with this list - http://wiki.exim.org/
