Hill Ruyter wrote:
> Hi  
> 
> Not trying to have a fight  
> Just found the suggestion that one needed a "trick DNS" to offer respectable 
> email was a little over the top 
> 
> We are not all top flight sysadmins with brains the size of planets  
> 
> Nev 
> 

If you pass Exim's reverse_host_lookup test, you are off to as good as start as 
can be had. Proper HELO/FQDN match added to that is even better.

IF THEN your sender is inappropriately affectionate to the dog w/r header 
format, message includes a virus, or other per-user, not per-server rudeness, 
the result won't be 'coz your server didn't belong to the right rowing club.

We can't be bothered to check any of the mnemonic-of-the month brainstorms.
As with the crocodile who starved to death on a diet of politicians - there's 
precious little substance there once you shake the shit out of them.

Feel free to send me a test message 'direct' if you aren't sure you have it all 
in place and doing the expected.

Bill



> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: W B Hacker [mailto:[email protected]] 
> Sent: 15 May 2009 16:46
> To: Hill Ruyter
> Subject: Re: [exim] Sender callout verification on BATV signed addresses
> 
> Hill Ruyter wrote:
>> --On 15 May 2009 13:11:02 +0100 Hill Ruyter <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>> What I seem to see here is an assumption that the only people who should
>>>> be allowed to run an email server are those doing it as a business and if
>>>> you want to run a little linux box with a couple of domains with about 3
>>>> accounts each you are left out in the cold.
>>> There are hosting services, ISPs and DNS providers that will allow you to 
>>> do this stuff. It's a specialist requirement, so you should not expect 
>>> every ISP to provide the services that you need to run a respectable email
>>> service.
>> I run my own email server at home on an Ubuntu box  
>> I have done many things to adhere to commonly accepted standards
>> I have a static IP 
>> My ISP has set my PTR for me 
>> I just set up SPF records following advice here. 
>> I have taken care not to have my server as an open relay  
>> I have secured my box
>> But I do not have the ability, time or, the desire to pay for; (specialist
>> requirements) which will come with; (specialist prices) 
>>
>> Does this mean I am not respectable? 
>> Why should I penalised? 
>> Is this geek elitism and techno snobbery?
>>
>> Hill 
>>
>>
> 
> Hill,
> 
> Don't seek a fight where none was offered.
> 
> I don't personally see vlaue in spf, dk, dkim, BATV,
> 
> 
> 
> 


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