On Tue, 30 Nov 1999, Steve Philp wrote:

> Bug Hunter wrote:
[..]
> >   DOS and Wind*ws and Mac applications and OS tends to hold peoples hands,
> > making it more difficult (not impossible) to screw up an installation to
> > the point a single user can't use it.  Mind you I'm not talking about
> > security.
> 
> You must not be talking about a user that installs applications into
> those environments either.  Seriously, Windows won't let a user screw it
> up?  Ha ha.  And that sentiment goes for security issues as well.  

You own the worlds must customizable (prove me wrong or stfu.) operating
system and your gonna complain about this? In less than a day (i'm being
generous) you can lock down a mandrake(virtualy any linux, for that
matter) system, so as the only way damage can be caused (without a hammer)
is unpluging it. Look at the cobalt cubes, or any of the other similar
systems. Now compare any of those to our friend (Not!) the dreamcast, that
bloody thing locks up more often than my K6 when i turn on it's
non-exsistant external cache in the bios, and it only has a gamepad for an
interface and no (persay) storage space. 

[...]
> >   However, only 5 to 10 percent of the world can handle a computer with
> > any reasonable certainty of success.  The other 90 to 95 percent need an
> > appliance, but think they want a computer.  To get linux into their hands,
> > it needs to be more like an appliance.  And that includes application
> > installs.
> 
> No, it just means that the personal computer is the wrong solution. 
> Take WebTV, as an example.  Need to send email and do occasional web
> surfing?  Why bother with the maintenance and cost of a PC when you can
> have a bulletproof box for $200 and never have to worry about it.

Double that and get that snazzy Phillips digital recorder that they are
spewing in the late night infomercials ;) (no really i don't like gadgets,
and somebody owes me one of these boxes for endorcing them)
 
> Keep in mind, however, that appliances like WebTV don't exclude Linux. 
> They simply hide the complexity for the given task.

The linux equivilant isn't very far off

> >   As much as I hate to admit it, Corel might be on the right path.  They
> > don't have it right yet, but they are heading the right direction.
> 
> For a specific market, yes.  Whether it's a significant market will
> remain to be seen.
 
*sigh* Still haven't seen it, you guys have all the fun


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