Hello pj
You have expressed my sentiments as well. Fortunately most email readers can
filter out noise like this almost automatically once they have been setup. I
would not be in favour of any other form of censorship, such as having
Mandrake Software remove them from the list, even assuming that they were
willing to do so. Please stay on the list and activate a filter.
Regards
Ron
Pj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> Before I found this MUG, I was in a newbie list, where I rightfully
> belonged. I was beseiged with foul language and temperamental children
> telling me and others to RTFM. I didn't appreciate the language then and
> I don't appreciate it now, personally.
>
> The reason this MUG was a great resource was because it was inhabited by
> persons who acted like adults. They didn't need to swear because they
> were frustrated. They needed answers and got them from their peers who
> were also on this list.
>
> At one time this list was not composed of home users. The people that
> ran our universities, and medical schools, and governments, and large
> corporations were very active on this list. The security experts and
> system analysists were here to help us secure our systems and make our
> networks function. Those names are missing, as are OUR developers and
> debuggers, that wrote the little scripts and taught us little tricks to
> keep us up and running after we shot ourselves in the foot.
>
> They are all gone. The only way to achieve this level of help again is
> to clean up our collective act or build a new MUG. From where I sit, and
> reading the level of questions submitted tese days there doesn't appear
> to be much to work with.
>
> The question is very basic. Do you want the guru's and developers back
> on this list to help us or not?
>
> If you do clean up the language, lose the attitude, exhibit a modicum of
> self control, open your ears and develop some patience. Then, just maybe
> Denis, SteveP, Dave, Zak, Ramone, Chamouol, Axalon, Jean-Michel and the
> other old heads will come back and rescue us from ourselves.
>
> I don't know about any one else on this list, but I need all the help
> I can get that's why I'm here. I'm not likely to leave and I'm not
> likely to help a whining, screaming, kid with a foul mouth and bad
> manners. And I know that I am not... a majority of one.
>
> Whether or not we read doc's isn't as important as trying the best we
> know how according to our level of knowledge. Not all of us have the
> ability to read the man page, but we all have the ability to try to
> clean up our own mess. As far as I am concerned if we are smart enough
> to run a Linux system successfully we are smart enough to be civilized
> and act like it in public. This list after all is a public forum.
>
> Pj
>
>
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