Ron Stodden wrote:
> 
> Denis Havlik wrote:
> 
> > No. Our beta-testing period for 7.1 was 3-4 x longer than for 7.0, and
> > there was nothing even near to "abrupt cesation" of testing. There were 3
> > public betas, and we did not receive any "critical bug reports" for the
> > third one, so we had all the reason to beleive that 7.1 will be a good
> > product (and it is).
> 
> Oh, dear, where have you been?   I reported one show-stopper on beta
> 3, and labelled my message about in in the cooker mailing list as
> "SHOW STOPPER".  As usual, there was no response from Mandrake, and
> the release proceeded regardless.   This is a damning indictment of
> your procedures, so let us please have no more delusional postings
> such as the parent to this message.   Mandrake does not run any
> activity which could rightly be called a beta test - that's a simple
> fact!   What was being tested was changing nearly every day!

Correction to my last:

The show-stopper reported the installer's failure to install
nfs-utils, which contains exportfs, without which no mount points can
be exported for use by specified other machines on the network.

An attempt to manually install the nfs-utils RPM leads to reporting
of a conflict with the quota RPM.

This did produce a response from Mandrake's Warly on 18th June:

"Yes you r right nfs-utils conflicts with quota, this gonna be
corrected.

"This is our fault but it is hard to test all the combination of
installed packages, and this is why you, cooker members, are so
precious to us."

However, Mandrake Updates does not even yet include any fix for
either RPM, so 7.1 remains unsuitable for installing on any machine
where networking is required.  This is not the only problem with
networking - the nfs daemon never gets started is another show
stopper.  There are more.

Show stoppers?   Denis Havlik responsibly decides, it seems, but does
not bother to communicate his decisions or tolerate review of them.

-- 

Regards,

Ron. [AU] - sent by Mandrake Linux.

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