[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
> Good move. So I was pissed when I wrote my little rant, have you ever
> thrown your keyboard and mouse across the room? Yes, I have a bad
> attitude towards lame geeky user interfaces, but that's just me.

and a bad attitude toward any other living human being?



[EMAIL PROTECTED] also said:
> I think they need to hear loud and clear that when they put out
> releases or call things "stable" that arn't, 

unstable for who? you? - well, gee. it works fine of 15 installations in my 
office. hmm
what could be wrong here, we have 1 jerk, who other than giving everyone the 
shits, has contibuted nothing (actually 2, if we count good old Ron S. (you 
know who you are)) to the process, and get pissed when it don't work for them.

childish!!!

> they will cause people
> great frustration, including damage to anything close by :)

if you cannot control your temper, and don't like what is going on with Mdk, 
go to
http://linuxfromscratch.org and do it yourself. 
When you then have a problem, you can hit yourself over the head with a 
keyboard as much as you like, or even set up a mailing list and flame 
yourself, for all I care.

all you are doing by flying off the handle here, is alienating yourself from 
the people who *can* help you.

If you cannot act with a little bit of civility, towards people that would 
help, you *deserve* to be put in a killfile, which I personally am loath to do.

> I don't want to cause this list to be censored, please don't even
> consider it. Just take the responsibility of setting your filtering on
> your mailer, or even better, write a nasty message to your mailer
> developer and ask why they don't have a way to simply "right click" on

You sure are the one who manages to write nasty messages to this list asking 
why you are to stupid to learn a few simple editor commands.

go ahead, Throw your keyboard again...

> a message and say "block this thread of messages" so you don't have to
> miss out on all my messages, sometimes I help people (really I do). 


All  I suggested, was to stop the damn vi/emacs/pico thread, which was, 
incidentally OFF TOPIC, after you had made your point, and then found a fix. A 
way to do so, would be to do like they do on several lists I am on.

The question gets asked.

an answer is provided.

No extraneous crap that is irrelevant.

such as this email for example.

or all of the followups that said me too on the vi from hell thread.

A question, an answer, no bullshit of topic, aol-esque me too crap.

therefore, a moderated list, is not the same as a censored list. 

All the moderator does, is to keep the list on topic, which in this case, is 
"Mandrake help - for experts to discuss issues they may have" not for newbies 
to say "me too."

everyone gets the help they need. 

no one gets hostile, and the people that are capable of helping, stick around. 
(this is the key issue I think)

I try to help when I have time, but I am so fed up with reading the bullshit, 
(I don't want to have to edit my procmailrc everytime a new bullshit thread 
erupts), that I may just leave the list altogether and ignore it.

my 2c.

again..

flames > /dev/null

Allen
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