> I could give a dead rat's ass about whether a driver (or any softrware) > is GPL/OS or not. Nothing but OS/GPL FUD against NVIDIA or anyone else > who chosses to do a binary distribution. Shit we (the linux community) > scream for better hardware support from the vendors. NVIDIA ponies up > (one of the few companies) and is providing a driver for linux that > equals the windows driver in performance and what do we (the linux > community) do? Rape them for not doing it "our" way. Whoa, easy there. Did you read the archive? It's a rational discussion of the problems with supporting closed source drivers. > I'd love to have a > driver from HP for my new P1000 Photosmart printer. I'd stuff it onto my > box in a second, OS/GPL or not. Why? My shit would work the best with it > instead of having to resort to a driver for a printer that hasn't been > made for 2 years and getting weak quality. Yeah that is what I want. Nobody is stopping HP from releasing binary drivers for Linux. I think that most Linux users would agree that the best solution would be open source drivers and the second best would be closed source and no drivers would be the worst case. > Off course when I boo t WinME the printer works great. NVIDIA's driver > puts to shame any GPLd'd driver out there and I can use one driver for > any of their cards. Has anyone ever considereed that to OS/GPL a driver > it needs to acutally work and have good specs and documentation? Do you want something that doesn't actually work? Good specs and documentation are a luxury? Keep in mind that some of us use Mandrake on servers. We need to know what goes into these machines. Mandrake does a nice job when it comes to security. Young, messy, closed source drivers should be added after the install by people who are willing to take chances. They should not be loaded by the distribution. Note that I don't want to imply that NVIDIA's drivers are young or messy. > NVIDIA > is not a big company and my guess is that they will do the Binary route > until they feel comforatble opening up the surce to the OS community. > I'm sure they do not want to do that and have the driver suck becuase > their code is poorly structured and their specs are inaccurate. Huh? I seem to recall it's because they want to protect their IP. > I've > used enough bad OS/GPL drivers to know that OS/GPL is no magic cure for > what ailes you. If that dirver is touched by a non expert or it has bad > specs supporting it your fucked. And to those who think OS/GPL menas you > get the latest drivers is FUD as well. No, but you do know what you're getting and if you're not skilled enough to see for yourself then there is a community willing to explain it to you. Plus there are companies like Mandrake that stake their reputation on the system. This can't be done with closed source software. Do you think that Microsoft doesn't demand source from vendors who get their drivers included with Windows? > Check the date on the current > Tulip.c that comes with Mandrake 7.2 It says 1998. That driver is under > constant updates from Syclid but it does not get into the current kernel > distro. Ther's a lot more to that story. You can get a patch for a more up-to-date driver and it is OS. > Each of us has a choice to use GLP/OS only everything. If that is your > choice then that is cool with me, you got to live with yourself, I don't > :). OK > IMHO NVIDIA should be given credit for providing the best 3D driver > on the market for Linux. I agree they should be given some credit. I also think that they would win more by opening their drivers. That's just because of the orientation of many Linux users. It's all just a matter of education and preference. Most Windows users don't even know what the GPL is. > That driver was the last hurdle for me to stop > using Windows as my main OS and move to linux. I did not sacrafice frame > rates or stability and I get to use Linux. I guess I could have spent > 250 bucks for a V5500, got the same frame rates as I do on my TNT2 Ultra > and be using an OS/GPL dirver. I'll stick with NVIDIA. But that is just > me. > > *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** > > On 11/17/2000 at 1:35 PM Tom Brinkman scribbled: > >> On Friday 17 November 2000 11:45 am, RaEl wrote: >>> NVIDIA has their own driver. Very easy to insstall. Just substitute >>> XF86Config-4 for XF86Config in the instructions and all should work >>> fine. I'm playing Quake3 and Unreal Tournament with no problems at >>> all. As far getting a V5500 I ask why? >> >> http://www.mandrakeforum.com/article.php3?sid=20001115080820 >> >> That's why, and not stated strong enough IMO >> -- >> Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Galveston Bay >> >> >> Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: >> Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list. > > > >
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