It's been a good discussion. I just thought I might point out your not
really using the term `commercial' correctly [many Open Source folk
don't]. The opposite of Open Source is closed source. The opposite of
commerical is non-commercial.
Mandrake is a commercial Open Source OS - the commerce occurs in that
Mandrake use their Linux distribution to gain revenue from boxed sets,
consulting, customized development, andd cetification programs.
DB2 is a commercial closed source database.
Powerarchiver [www.powerarchiver.com] is a mostly non-commerical closed
source archiving app.
And many small Open Source apps are non-commerical, like gqview or
similar, though this may change soon.
Personally, I don't care at all whether something is commerical or
otherwise [they're very hard to define anyway]. Open and closed source
are important, but my primary concern is getting the best tool for the
job. That just quite often happens to be the Open Source one.
Mike
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On Tue, 19 Dec 2000, Scott Parks wrote:
> Thank you for your thoughts and thank you to everyone who has responded. I
> have to look at a couple of things. First off, Debian seems to shy away from
> any commercial products, I have been told that is why KDE is not included,
> you can install it, but it is not part of it. If I were to go with a
> commercial db product like IBM's db2 I would be better on the RH/Mandrake
> side than a Debian. I also have to look at the time it takes me to set the
> darn thing up. Since I use Mandrake as my primary machine all the time I am
> comfortable with it and can have a server install up with Apache/PHP/Postgres
> in under 15 minutes. I also know where to go when there is a problem.
>
> Running Mandrake as a stipped down (no X, etc) box I think might be the
> ticket. I was just reading on Mandrakes site that some pizza place is using
> Mandrake as their Point Of Sale system, if a system can handle that it can
> handle almost anything!
>
> Thanks again, I am always welcome to comments.
>
> -Scott
>
>
>
>
> > > Hmmn. Performance is likely to be pretty much the same for both
> > distributions. Open Source software installation is much easier on Debian
> > [packages are downloaded and pdependencies worked out automatically].
> > Closed source aps [which you might have a need of] are generally more
> > available for RPM based distributions.
> >
> > The TUX webserver, which recently thrashed Apache and IIS 5.0 at
> > Mirosofts own favourite benchmark [they've used for four years to tell
> > the world how good IIS is] was created by Red Hat, and will most likely
> > be ported to Mandrake before Debian, if you so choose to use it.
> >
> > Mandrake is a billion times easier to administer than Debian, with the
> > exception of package installation. For a webserver, you probab;ly won't
> > be adding and removing apps all the time.
> >
> > Security about the same. Mandrake now hire the bastille people as part of
> > their devel team, and have significantly imporved in recent times.
> > Thjings like ReiserFS are alsoquite impotant for web hosting companies.
> >
> > The overwhelming majority of commercial web serving occurs on Red Hat.
> > Red Hat and Mandrake aren't 100% compatible any more, but its still rare
> > you'd run into something hich doesn't work on both [provided its for Red
> > Hat 6, not 7]
>
>
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