Just a short not before I head off to work to do for a living what I've been
trying to get done here at home, which is trouble-shooting my system and
trying to get my DAMN printer to work.
I followed Till's instructions to the letter, installed all the packages
and...well...I'm sorry but it's worse then before. Part of the time it
doesn't even "see" that there's a printer connected to the port, and when I
do manage to get a printer configured it doesn't hold it's connection. This
IS a software issue. A very BAD software issue.
Something else I've noticed about Cups. It's utilizing IPP protocols in order
to communicate with the printer. I think this is part of the problem. The
darn thing isn't recognized any other way, and unless I'm mistaken doesn't
the printer need to be NETWORK enabled in order to use this protocol? My
Canon most definately is not.
Anton, while your suggestion hasn't worked "yet" I'm going to give it another
try after I've calmed down and gotten yet another perspective in this
miserable issue. Normally, because of the work I do, IT/MIS, it takes a
little while of working at something to get this frustrated exausting all
known and discovered options and believe me I've done that and more, I've
reached a new level of frustration.
It really just boils down to this. I do this stuff every day and you know
what. I LOVE my linux box. I love everything about Linux. I love the way it
just runs and runs without a complaint for wekks, months and yes...even years
without a hiccup. But damnit I don't want to have to work this stinkin hard
on setting up and "HOME" printer so my son can print a school report, or I
can tell Nutscrape to print out a page for me so I have it as a reference
later. I just simply don't want to have to work this hard. Getting geeked out
over something new about the system is cool, but having to get geeked about
something as mundane as setting up a printer is ...well, just not something I
want to do.
It's been my experience that printers are the most miserable of computer
components known to man. They will, at time and for no discernable reason
just stop working. And then as you're toiling away trying to figure them out,
suddenly begin to work again. I don't like them at all, but they're a
necessary evil that comes along with computers. My passion.
To tell you the truth I would much rather be programming a complex accounting
system in maingrame assembler then trying to get my Canon, my linux box, and
Cups to play nice so I can NOT have this headache. Both figuratively and
literally.
Ok...I'm done ranting again. gotta go to work and get a rest now!
--
Mark
"If you don't share your concepts and ideals, they end up being worthless,"
"Sharing is what makes them powerful."
Linus Torvalds
On Wednesday 03 January 2001 02:09 am, you wrote:
> Before you 'crap and go blind', take Till's advice and check the
> updates. I had exactly the problems you were having (I think the
> 'cdj880' driver was broken in the standard 7.2 CUPS), but everything
> worked out on my HP DJ832C after downloading/installing the updates off
> Till's page. Now getting decent color and 600 dpi.....beats crapping in
> the dark!!!
>
> Tom
>
> Mark Weaver wrote:
> > Hi list,
> >
> > <rant-on>
> > I just had an epiphany. CUPS PRINTING SUCKS!!@#Q#$%#!#@!
> >
> > I liked the printer support that I had back in Mdk 7.1. It was simple,
> > direct, to the point, and...IT FRIGGIN WORKED WITHOUT HAVING TO SACRIFICE
> > SMALL BARNYARD ANIMALS TO THE GODS OF MORONITY IN ORDER TO GET IT TO
> > WORK.
> >
> > Why was something that was straightforward and NOT BROKEN changed so much
> > that it's now NOT A USABLE OPTION? I just don't get it! I want to be able
> > to print from all the applicartions that I could print from before with
> > the same printer that I used before and I want to do all this some time
> > this stinkin century. I REALLY don't think that's too much to expect.
> >
> > I'm not ungrateful to those who are clearly working very hard on this
> > Linux distribution. You all are doing a fantastic job. But DAMNIT! when
> > something is working LEAVE IT ALONE, will ya?
> > </rant-off>
> >
> > That being said I would like to express my disappointment with the
> > printer support in this distribution. When you can get it to work it
> > absolutely will not work correctly. The damn printer params are METRIC
> > for God's sake. For those of us that DO NOT live, breath and die by the
> > metric system apparently are unable to use this...this...Ah hell...I
> > don't know what you'd call it, but it's unusable where as before my Canon
> > hummed right along and didn't have a care in the world.
> >
> > At this point I'm not sure whether I want to crap or go blind I'm so
> > frustrated and sick and tired of trying everything I've learned over the
> > past 7 years to convince, coax and/or otherwise plead with this OS that
> > it's perfectly ok to print to the printer and to do it in a LEGABLE
> > manner.
> >
> > That's the other thing that REALLY got my shorts in a knot. When it does
> > print the job is printed in a 5x8 square in the upper left corner of a
> > 8.25x11 inch peice of paper. It doesn't matter what "I", the user tells
> > it to do it does that and only that. And yes, I've used the Cups
> > configure do-dad that shipped with this fine distribution, AND every
> > other printer configuration utility that was supplied with the
> > distribution and STILL it's printing in the same manner.
> >
> > Things that are sent from apps such as Star Office go to the queue and
> > then vanish without a trace! Now THATS a cool, or should that be a cruel
> > trick!
> >
> > With all this agrivation I'm serisouly considering going back to 7.1 not
> > matter how good Mdk7.2 looks and feels. My god! if I can't do the whole
> > job then what I DO get done on this machine isn't the least bit of good
> > to me unless I can complete the job. AND PART OF THAT IS BEING ABLE TO
> > GET IT TO THE PRINTER.
> >
> > We're never going to take the world, nor even a decent peice of the
> > market with stuff like this being common place. That's just the truth of
> > it.
> >
> > Mark
