On Mon, 15 Jan 2001, Praedor Tempus wrote:

> On Sunday 14 January 2001 22:12, you wrote:
> > Praedor Tempus wrote:
> > > Has anyone purchases Heretic II from Loki and actually managed to get it
> > > to work on Mandrake 7.2?  On a 7.2 system with XFree86-4.0.2?
> >
> > I have, but I can't remeber if it was vbefore I installed X 402 or not.
> >
> > > I must say I am becoming disgusted with Loki on this.  Linux will NEVER
> > > make it with the general user if it is impossible to simply install and
> > > run a freakin' game that is LINUX NATIVE, fer shit's sake.
> >
> > I hope that isn't the case. Remember how fast things are advancing in the
> > Linux world compred to Windows - and they have groud to make up on us too.
> 
> Either Mandrake has drifted "too far" from Redhat, which tends to be the 
> distro most test against, 

That's already happened. I don't consider Mandrake to be Red Hat 
compatible, and that's great. Red Hat 7 pissed off a lot of people. Most 
test against Red Hat 6.2, comaptible with all other distributions ont he 
market.

> or Loki is not keeping up with linux.  
No, Loki have updates the game since its original release quite 
significantly. I think Loki do a brillaint job and have stacks of 
resources on their site for helping you out. Try downloading the update 
and checking before condemning Loki so much! There's stacks of Windows 
games that were basically unplayable on certain machines before updates 
came out.

 > It would 
> rather suck if one had to go to Redhat installs if one wants to play games. 
Yes it would.

> Another nice thing...I DID manage to play the game for a while when I got it 
> - as root.  I cannot recall if that was before or after I went from 
> XFree86-4.0.1 to 4.0.2 or not.  Anyway, Loki has an update for heretic2 which 
> purports to fix some bugs.  Upgrading your heretic2 binary, however, makes it 
> incompatible with any saved games you might have.  You lose all of them, not 
> that it mattered much.  

True. Its bad, but its also not uncommon or Linux specific.

> Trying to start a new game either crashes the game or 
> wrecks X, requiring a restart of the X server.  
> 
> > > Anyway, trying to run the game totally dicks up my X session.
> >
> > Do other OpenGL apps run? It sounds like your in software mode...
> 
> Yes.  Unfortunately, the readme with the games indicate that they will not 
> work with hardware acceleration if you are using XFree86-4.0.x.  I would 
> expect them to fix this soon as it will certainly become THE X server for all 
> quite soon.  Surely it is just a recompile against the new xfree libs, etc?

That's *really* unusual. The only games I know which don't run with X4 
[they shouldn't need to be recompiled] are the original release of UT 
[before updates] and Myth II: SoulBlighter.

Try the latest Unreal Tournament release.

If you still have problems, check out the Linux Gamers League on 
IRC sydney.oz.org#lgl, and ask your questions there.

Mike

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> ----
> Praedor
> 
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