No kidding, reminds me of the NT "user adjustment" that required a reboot
every 45 days.  Sheeez, the only adjustment a user should have to make, is
to upgrade periodically as the developers squish bugs (ie this one). 
--- Pierre Fortin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Mark,
> 
> [At the risk of starting a thread that won't die...]
> 
> With all due respect, your comments really puzzle me...  especially in a
> Linux
> forum... Extending your argument, why was it ever necessary to make
> Linux so
> reliable?  Users could just "dump and restart" it too...
> 
> Just as I hate reboots, especially unplanned ones (including power which
> is why
> all my systems are on UPSs), I too hate browser crashes/restarts.  
> 
> "Why"...?  
> 
> Because it destroys my workflow, negatively affects my thought patterns
> and
> forces a [partial] cranial restart too (lost time).  Many of us have
> multiple
> browser windows open because we too are multitasking.  By your argument,
> why
> bother having business meetings that build on the previous meetings;
> just "dump
> and restart" all the data, knowledge and decisions as one goes from
> meeting to
> meeting...  
> 
> Linux, and almost every other non-M$ OS, have over the years proven that
> OS
> crashes are unnecessary and that crash avoidance actually improves
> productivity;
> why should that not apply to applications too...?  I suspect you've
> never had a
> browser crash while in the middle of a stock trade during a volatile
> trading
> day...  many of us have.  
> 
> And NO!  I don't think it is responsible of developers to expect the
> user to
> make "adjustments" just because they can't get it right.  In fact, this
> does
> *not scale*...  every bug or misfeature which requires user awareness,
> *multiply* reduces productivity, *multiply* impacts thought processes,
> etc. etc.
> 
> We don't need, nor want unplanned application restarts any more than we
> want OS
> reboots.
> 
> Hope that answers your "why"...  :^)
> 
> Regards,
> Pierre
> 
> PS:  I'm retired and still feel this way...  Why?  'cuz my life
> expectancy is
> surely now shorter than yours...  :^)
> 
> 
> Mark Weaver wrote:
> > 
> > While I understand this to be a desire of many who use the browsers in
> > this manner, I don't understand "why" this is. The browser was never
> > designed to do such a thing. Why would one want it to? Why not just
> kill
> > the browser now and then, dump the cache and restart the browser.
> Since
> > linux memory management is already good enough to handle running
> > non-stop without trouble it would appear that users, rather then the
> > software would have to make an adjustment here.
> > 
> > Mark
> > 
> > Bill Barnes wrote:
> > >
> > > Well, part of the rush is for what is hoped to be an
> > > acceptable browser.
> > >
> > > Opera, Netscape6, Netscape 4.76 inevitably crash about
> > > the time you get a decent mix of websites up.  I
> > > expect the browser to be up 24/7.  Maybe Konqueror
> > > Final can do this.
> > >
> > > -Bill
> 


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