Wow! thank you Steve,

things are beginning to fall into place. i first noticed the condition
described soon after installation and use. i was curious about
Gnome/Sawfish so i started that desktop and found it gorgeous. but also
very resource intensive. Then, i started looking around to see if i could
find the culprit that was sucking me dry. The machine i've got this
running on is a Celeron 800Mhz Dell box with 128MB of RAM. So it's not an
older machine ill-equipped for the task. i really like the new look and
feel of Gnome/sawfish, but in order to get "any" work done i'm forced to
use IceWM or even KDE which place far less demands on the system.

But i shall definately do as you've suggested.

thank you very much!

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daRcmaTTeR
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On Thu, 23 Aug 2001, FLYNN, Steve wrote:

>It's an idle task there to soak up unused CPU cycles. It should run at 100%
>- whatever %ge the rest of the box is using.
>
>It's not actually using the CPU cycles that top shows - it just credited
>with them in the accounting files.
>
>It's not your problem.
>
>> CPU states:  5.3% user, 20.5% system,  0.0% nice, 74.1% idle
>
>You're running at 74.1% idle - plenty of spare cycles on your box, it's
>hardly breaking a sweat.
>
>Now, how do we find your problem - next time this happens, switch to another
>console (Ctrl-alt-F5 for instance) and 'tail -50 /var/log/messages' and post
>the result.
>
>Is there any HD activity on your box when this happens?
>
>Also, I notice that X seems to consuming a hell of a lot of ram on your
>machine - I don't have an Mandrake 8.0 machine here at work, to check but
>I'm sure my box with 256 meg doesn't have 37M sucked up by X!
>
>
>Steve Flynn
>NOP Data Migration Ops Analyst
>* 01603 687386
>
>
>       -----Original Message-----
>       From:   Mark Weaver [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>       Sent:   Thursday, August 23, 2001 3:10 PM
>       To:     [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>       Subject:        [expert] kapm-idled????
>
>       Hi list,
>
>       there's something strange here on my Mandrake 8.0 box and try as i
>might i
>       can't find it to kill it! it seems to be a process of some sort that
>when
>       it runs it cripples my system making it impossible to get any work
>done.
>       what ever this is it shows up in kpm and top like this:
>
>               [kapm-idled]
>
>       however, it's anything but "idle". as i said it is crippling my
>system
>       when it runs. here is a bit from the top screen showing the
>information as
>       it's running:
>
>        10:57am  up 20:30,  2 users,  load average: 0.44, 1.48, 1.42
>       80 processes: 77 sleeping, 3 running, 0 zombie, 0 stopped
>       CPU states:  5.3% user, 20.5% system,  0.0% nice, 74.1% idle
>       Mem:   125600K av,   62400K used,   63200K free,       0K shrd,
>892K
>       buff
>       Swap:  265032K av,   52372K used,  212660K free
>29892K
>       cached
>
>         PID USER     PRI  NI  SIZE  RSS SHARE STAT %CPU %MEM   TIME
>COMMAND
>           3 root      14   0     0    0     0 SW   40.3  0.0   4:36
>kapm-idled
>        1486 root      14   0 48128  37M  4032 R     4.5 30.5   5:07 X
>        4468 mark      12   0  2916 2180  1936 R     1.5  1.7   0:01
>kdeinit
>        1637 mark       9   0  3512 2604  2096 S     1.1  2.0   0:19 kicker
>        1610 mark       9   0  2684 1796  1632 S     0.3  1.4   0:28
>kdeinit
>        4529 mark      11   0   952  940   716 R     0.3  0.7   0:01 top
>        1645 mark       9   0  3180 1732  1580 S     0.1  1.3   0:21
>kdeinit
>           1 root       9   0   104   60    60 S     0.0  0.0   0:04 init
>
>       as you can see it runs as a root process but i can't find its origin
>to
>       kill the process. left to run long enough it will fill the swap
>space and
>       then the only way to recover from this is to reboot the system. This
>has
>       been going on since i installed Mdk 8.0 on this machine 7 days ago.
>AFter
>       rebooting the machine runs fine. Then, out of nowehere "kapm-idled"
>pops
>       up and efectively renders the machine useless until "it" decides to
>stop
>       running. "IF" it decides to stop running. Which it has on two
>seperate
>       occasions. That is not the norm though with this "diseased" mystery
>       process.
>
>       Could someone please tell me what this is and how to kill it once
>and for
>       all? i've attempted every way and manner available to me that i know
>of
>       that you would normally use to stop a process that has gotten away.
>All of
>       them have no affect on this one though.
>
>       Feel free to email me direct with any information if you so desire.
>
>       thanks,
>
>       --
>       daRcmaTTeR
>       =/\=???
>             |%C++
>
>       "Beware of little sins. Mosquitoes drink more blood than lions."
>                                               Author unknown
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