indeed!
there was something that i forgot to mention the original post that
Steve's post reminded me about. at the time it started i had Netscape6
running AND i was testing a .cgi script that typically produces a lot of
I/O for a time while it's gathering the data and outputting to screen in
the form of an HTML file. But! and here's the rub. I've run this program
and others like it before without having this experience. The only time
i've noticed this problem was when kapm-idled was present.
now i don't doubt what these guys have said so far, and yes...even what
Hoyt said is valid even though he must not have been himself when he said
it... (and since i did get my two cents in i'll let it go at that) it
still strikes me as mysterious as to the cause of the system being
debilitated as it has been. i'm actually looking forward to the next
episode so i can impliment Steve's suggestion to see what happens next!
--
daRcmaTTeR
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"Beware of little sins. Mosquitoes drink more blood than lions."
Author unknown
On Thu, 23 Aug 2001, Alan N. wrote:
>I've read this before and have seen this with Mandrake.
>
>I'm no expert but it makes my machine sluggish also.
>Very much so.
>
>RedHat 7.1 also has this process running.
>
>However it uses 0% CPU cycles.
>This is the main reason I'm using redhat now.
>I simply could not deal with the sluggishness.
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of FLYNN, Steve
>Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2001 12:30 PM
>To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
>Subject: RE: [expert] kapm-idled????
>
>
>It's an idle task there to soak up unused CPU cycles. It should run at 100%
>- whatever %ge the rest of the box is using.
>
>It's not actually using the CPU cycles that top shows - it just credited
>with them in the accounting files.
>
>It's not your problem.
>
>> CPU states: 5.3% user, 20.5% system, 0.0% nice, 74.1% idle
>
>You're running at 74.1% idle - plenty of spare cycles on your box, it's
>hardly breaking a sweat.
>
>Now, how do we find your problem - next time this happens, switch to another
>console (Ctrl-alt-F5 for instance) and 'tail -50 /var/log/messages' and post
>the result.
>
>Is there any HD activity on your box when this happens?
>
>Also, I notice that X seems to consuming a hell of a lot of ram on your
>machine - I don't have an Mandrake 8.0 machine here at work, to check but
>I'm sure my box with 256 meg doesn't have 37M sucked up by X!
>
>
>Steve Flynn
>NOP Data Migration Ops Analyst
>* 01603 687386
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mark Weaver [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2001 3:10 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [expert] kapm-idled????
>
> Hi list,
>
> there's something strange here on my Mandrake 8.0 box and try as i
>might i
> can't find it to kill it! it seems to be a process of some sort that
>when
> it runs it cripples my system making it impossible to get any work
>done.
> what ever this is it shows up in kpm and top like this:
>
> [kapm-idled]
>
> however, it's anything but "idle". as i said it is crippling my
>system
> when it runs. here is a bit from the top screen showing the
>information as
> it's running:
>
> 10:57am up 20:30, 2 users, load average: 0.44, 1.48, 1.42
> 80 processes: 77 sleeping, 3 running, 0 zombie, 0 stopped
> CPU states: 5.3% user, 20.5% system, 0.0% nice, 74.1% idle
> Mem: 125600K av, 62400K used, 63200K free, 0K shrd,
>892K
> buff
> Swap: 265032K av, 52372K used, 212660K free
>29892K
> cached
>
> PID USER PRI NI SIZE RSS SHARE STAT %CPU %MEM TIME
>COMMAND
> 3 root 14 0 0 0 0 SW 40.3 0.0 4:36
>kapm-idled
> 1486 root 14 0 48128 37M 4032 R 4.5 30.5 5:07 X
> 4468 mark 12 0 2916 2180 1936 R 1.5 1.7 0:01
>kdeinit
> 1637 mark 9 0 3512 2604 2096 S 1.1 2.0 0:19 kicker
> 1610 mark 9 0 2684 1796 1632 S 0.3 1.4 0:28
>kdeinit
> 4529 mark 11 0 952 940 716 R 0.3 0.7 0:01 top
> 1645 mark 9 0 3180 1732 1580 S 0.1 1.3 0:21
>kdeinit
> 1 root 9 0 104 60 60 S 0.0 0.0 0:04 init
>
> as you can see it runs as a root process but i can't find its origin
>to
> kill the process. left to run long enough it will fill the swap
>space and
> then the only way to recover from this is to reboot the system. This
>has
> been going on since i installed Mdk 8.0 on this machine 7 days ago.
>AFter
> rebooting the machine runs fine. Then, out of nowehere "kapm-idled"
>pops
> up and efectively renders the machine useless until "it" decides to
>stop
> running. "IF" it decides to stop running. Which it has on two
>seperate
> occasions. That is not the norm though with this "diseased" mystery
> process.
>
> Could someone please tell me what this is and how to kill it once
>and for
> all? i've attempted every way and manner available to me that i know
>of
> that you would normally use to stop a process that has gotten away.
>All of
> them have no affect on this one though.
>
> Feel free to email me direct with any information if you so desire.
>
> thanks,
>
> --
> daRcmaTTeR
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