I felt boxed-in by Mandrake as well.

Then I tried Debian, and loved it.

You might try Slackware if you find Debian not hands-on enough.

If you *really* need liberation, check out LinuxFromScratch, a document
that describes how to make your own distro.

Best of luck!

-- Asheesh.

On Tue, 20 Nov 2001, Leif Madsen wrote:

> I am in the process of developing my own Linux distro to avoid the slowness
> of the recent Mandrake distro.  8.0 is too hard to upgrade (stable) and 8.1
> is slow and unstable IMO.  I do love the Mandrake distro though as it has
> taught me so much, but I think I'm out-growing it..
>
> Leif Madsen - Project Manager
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://www.plannettechnologies.com
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mark D'voo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 10:14 AM
> Subject: Re: [expert] Upgrade from 7.2 to 8.1
>
>
> > Mandrake is the reason i'm still using linux, but 8.1 is way to slow, and
> 8.0
> > isn't enough up-to-date.  It cause me to switch to jblinux.net which i'm
> > still using.
> >
> > mark
> >
> > On Wednesday 21 November 2001 03:09, you wrote:
> > > I would have to agree with slower machines.  I only use it in the
> console
> > > mode, so it's not bad.  I've never used anything before 8.0 though.  I
> find
> > > that there was a slow down between 8.1 and 8.0.  I'm back to 8.0 because
> > > 8.1 isn't nearly as stable either (IMHO).
> > >
> > > Leif Madsen - Project Manager
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > http://www.plannettechnologies.com
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Mark D'voo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 9:48 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [expert] Upgrade from 7.2 to 8.1
> > >
> > > > 8.1 seems a lot slower than 7.2, beware on slower machines, it made my
> > > > 400
> > >
> > > go
> > >
> > > > very slow
> > > >
> > > > On Wednesday 21 November 2001 02:42, you wrote:
> > > > > I've never looked to see if there is a roll-back option for
> Mandrake..
> > >
> > > but
> > >
> > > > > I would assume that your hardware should be fine for 8.1 since I've
> run
> > >
> > > it
> > >
> > > > > on a P100 with 32MB of RAM :)
> > > > >
> > > > > Leif Madsen - Project Manager
> > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > http://www.plannettechnologies.com
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Ken Hawkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > To: "expert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 3:06 PM
> > > > > Subject: [expert] Upgrade from 7.2 to 8.1
> > > > >
> > > > > > I have the MDK 8.1 CD I got as a burned ISO...
> > > > > > I know that it is usually best to perform clean installs, but- I
> have
> > > > > > Mandrake 7.2 on my laptop, and it is running great. I have also
> > > > > > customized and added programs that are useful to me (such as
> > >
> > > ConsoleOne,
> > >
> > > > > > Netscape 4.78, VNCviewer etc etc). I would like to install as an
> > >
> > > upgrade
> > >
> > > > > > so I don't have to redo all the installations, but I am concerned
> > > > > > with breaking something.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I guess my question would be: is there a roll-back option
> available
> > > > > > if the upgrade breaks?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > A second question is what is the minimum hardware requirement for
> > > > > > 8.1? Will an AMD 380mhz, with 160MB ram be enough?
> > > >


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