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just thought i would chime in my two cents worth...

two bad mobos is very odd. are you certain that your power supply is ok?

i had one die on me and it started to put out 22VAC - yes, AC on the +12VDC 
lines. not a good scene.

others have made excellent suggestions, but i didn't see this one.

good luck!
moose.

On Thursday 17 January 2002 14:55, you wrote:
> At 07:17 AM 1/17/2002 -0700, you wrote:
> >Nope. No beeps whatsover. No video display. Nothing. The CPU fan runs
> >though and I hear some noise from the drives as I normally do. The D-panel
> >diagnostic lights are all red. The manual says that combo of colors
> >indicates a bad CPU but when I talked to MSI tech support last week the
> >tech said if I don't hear any beeps it's a bad mobo. But, 2 in a row? If
> >so, I think I'll return the board and go with some other vendor.
>
> Lee,
>
> I assume you have built this baby from scratch, right? It might help, and
> it might not, to start at the beginning, and I mean the very beginning.
> Empty every PCI and ISA, if present, bus slot. Pull out all sticks of
> memory. Try to boot with just the system board, hard drive, cpu, and one
> stick of your memory. Next try with your AGP, or PCI video, card. Get down
> to the bare minimum of what you need, each time adding one piece, trying
> the boot again. One thing to check very carefully is your wire LEDs. Try
> these wires one at a time too, first PW LED, then SW LED, so on and so
> forth. Sometimes these LEDs can simply be reversed, keeping BIOS from
> starting. The posts about setting CPU speed in BIOS are right on but you
> must first have a running BIOS to do so. Check all jumpers on board again,
> and, if need be, clear CMOS with the jumper pin on your board. You
> obviously need to have a running BIOS to do what must be done. I would just
> troubleshoot along these lines, and if no BIOS can run, take the hardware
> back, and demand a exchange. Good luck......
>
> J. Craig Woods
> UNIX/NT SA
> -Art is the illusion of spontaneity-

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