On Tuesday 29 January 2002 08:57 am, you wrote:
> On Mon, 28 Jan 2002, Timothy R. Butler wrote:
> > Hi Mike,
> >
> > > KDE 3.0 is in RC1, and I can't imagine rushing a distro to market not
> > > waiting for it.
> >
> >   That's what I was thinking. I remember when KDE 2.0 came out it was so
> > much nicer once I got a version of my then current distro (SuSE) that
> > came with KDE 2 rather than having my manual upgrades to KDE 2.0
> > installed (since numerous applications didn't work right, and things
> > weren't as nice and optimized, IMO).
>
> KDE3.0 had their Beta1 release on Decemeber 19. Since then there are
> lots of bug reports and different issues to get it working right.  It's
> now a little over a month later for a very major upgrade and it would be
> very difficult to address all the problems. Sure, you'll get the newer
> features of KDE3.0, but you'll also lose stability and increase
> frustration. To delay 8.2 until KDE3.0 is stable may mean extra months
> of waiting. While this happens, other improvements such as gcc, glibc,
> XFree86, improved filesystem support, improved updaters, etc. will be
> left waiting. Anyhow, I think Mandrake addresses this problem by
> providing the Cooker branch. If you want cutting-edge, less tested
> stuff, then you can install these packages. If you don't want to
> download them, take a look at one of the GPL Linux distributors that
> offer the Cooker CDs for under $5.
>
> >   It would be ashame that we would have to wait for MDK 8.3 in September
> > (or somewhere around there), to finally get KDE 3.0 installed with
> > Mandrake 8.3...
> >
> >   As someone on another list I'm on put it - "Hey not every body wants to
> > do a 110 Mb download and then spend a weekend sorting things out."
> >
> >   -Tim

In a Slashdot discussion about 8.2 yesterday, a suggestion was made that 
Mandrake ship 8.2 with KDE 2.2 as the default and include 3.0 as an option. I 
kind of like that idea. I don't think that using beta software as the default 
desktop in a distribution is a good idea; there is enough traffic on these 
lists already. Mandrake has gained the reputation as being both 
newbie-friendly and somewhat cutting edge -- that's a delicate balance, and 
one that is easily broken.
-- cmg

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