On Friday 01 February 2002 06:51, you wrote:

> > On Sunday, January 20, 2002, at 12:36  PM, Gerard Perreault wrote:

> > > You can expect a feirce battle ahead. They are already trying to
> > > diversify,
> > > the X box is an example. Pretty soon, products like Lindows, VMware,
> > > Wine and
> > > the likes will make M$-Windows a sub-system, something running under
> > > the control of another major OS, and with time it will be less and less
> > > used even
> > > if available.
> >
> > IBM had a similar concept when OS/2 Warp was released. It failed even
> > though OS/2 is much better than Windows, IMO. Better luck with
> > Linux........

> On Sun, 2002-01-20 at 20:53, Lee Roberts wrote:

> Wasn't OS/2 a forerunner of Windows NT?  Seems like I recall reading a
> long time ago that OS/2 was a collaborative effort between Microsoft and
> IBM.  For whatever reason, the two companies quit the venture, and
> Microsoft "stole" the concepts of OS/2 and made NT.

We (my co-workers and I) were working at Computerland as techs when all this 
was taking place.  We'd been involved since before the advent of DOS.  At the 
time, as far as Unix was concerned, SCO was the only thing happening for the 
386.  OS/2 started life as a contract between IBM and Microshaft.

Microshaft started the OS/2 development FOR IBM, but was not getting the job 
done fast enough to suit the IBM team.  (0n purpose, btw.)  In addition, it 
became apparent that MicroShaft was not holding true to the spirit of the 
contract, and had developed ideas of it's own with regard to OS/2 technology. 
 For these reasons and more, IBM terminated  it's relationship with the Shaft.

At that point, IBM began OS/2 development with a team that it itself put 
together, and they eventually came up with a product that was, as Gerard 
Perreault put it, much better than Windows.  But they had a tough row to hoe, 
because IBM was coming off of the MicroChannel fiasco at the time, and had to 
contend with fierce public discontent with their treatment of the PC hardware 
world.  Compaq was kicking their @ss with some very advanced PC ISA 
architecture desktops, you see...systems that were trouncing the MicroChannel 
hardware in the benchmarks.  The "clone" manufacturers were also getting 
cranked up to full output and making a big dent also.  IBM lost the ability 
to charge for the PC architecture, you see (ISA) because they never tied it 
up with legalesse like they did later with MicroChannel (too late.)

That's what started the whole PC industry off with a bang.  A free PC 
hardware architecture that was non-licensed.  We owe our whole world today as 
it stands to that one happenstance.  IBM had to fight the new picture of 
greed that it had painted with it's attempt to grab everybody back by forcing 
them to pay for MicroChannel architecture; this tainted their marketing 
attempts with OS/2 to a large degree.  It's one of the things that kept OS/2 
from taking over.

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