On Fri, 8 Feb 2002 12:18:28 -0600
Richard Wenninger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Friday 08 February 2002 08:15 am, you wrote:
> > I installed the prebuilt rpm. I tried:
> >
> > WineX-1.0-2 and WineX-1.0-3 rpms, the latest preview 5 of
codeweavers-wine,
> > and the latest stripped winehq binary. Upon installing a new wine
version
> > I always run a quick test to get a general feel as to how well it will
> > likely do the job. Basically, I try to run any 3 or so of the
following:
> > notepad, wordpad, IE, mspaint, solitaire and minesweeper. If the new
wine
Using codeweavers latest I've gotten IE (without icons) mspaint
solitare
(but hearts locks up dang it) and minesweeper to run. Wordpad crashes
before the load and Notepad runs pretty well although it does sometimes
crash after a save. With the transgaming version of wine I remember
talking to the guys at Linux world, They stated then that thier intrest
was in games and getting them to Linux. If they had to make a choice
between optimal game performance and "other" msapps the games would win.
Kinda like how crossover is optimized for Quicktime. OH and I have gotten
Word 97 to run under wine.... a tad bit flakey and crash prone but it does
run. (Hancom office is better so I stick with that as much as possible).
But still if I really want windows apps to run right. Win4lin or vmWare
is the best way to go.
> > has no trouble running these then I know that it wasn't broken from
> > previous releases (ALL the winehq and codeweaver releases over the
last
> > year have no problem with these simple apps). I also assume that it
will
> > do a reasonable job of running other apps of more importance (these
are
> > just my testers). I then might try Diablo, StarCraft, Half-Life to
make
> > sure they work. I haven't ever gotten this far with WineX. WineX
cannot
> > run a single one of the test apps. This tells me 2 things, 1) WineX
is
> > LESS functional than any of the freely available versions of wine -
but it
> > costs money, and 2) it isn't likely to have much luck with/cannot be
> > trusted to be able to handle ANY other app.
>
> Something is definately wrong on your system, as I use winex, and it
works
> better than any wine I've tried, having tried all the above.
>
> >I do not just want a few games
> > to work (they work with the other variants afterall), but I also
wan't/need
> > for non-game apps to work too. With WineX you are assured that
whether an
> > app works or not is a total, complete crapshoot with poorer odds than
any
> > other wine variant.
> > My beef involves several things. If you are going to charge for it,
it
> > damn-well better be AT LEAST of equal functionality to any of the
freely
> > available variants (and I've repeatedly demonstrated that it is
actually
> > less functional). Another beef is the absolute lack of ANY
> > documentation/instructions to go with it...or the complete lack of any
> > message output for why things aren't working. I had to do straces to
get
>
> I agree with you here. The documentation sucks/is non-extistant.
>
> > any useful information out of winex - only to find that it requires
> > something that it isn't supplying (but EVERY other free non-winex
version
> > DOES supply/doesn't need, to whit, libMFC42 and /usr/lib/mmx, whatever
THAT
> > is). Finally, it does NOT get along with an already installed windoze.
It
> > insists on one choice: install the "fake" windoze. So, this means
that if
> > you already have apps/games installed via windoze, they are useless to
you.
>
> I use winex to run programs on my native windows partition without
problems.
>
> > You are expected to reinstall all of them into your linux system,
usually
> > into your individual HOME directory. So, if you want to use winex as
it
> > appears to be designed, you have to allocate gigabytes of space to
each
> > HOME directory so there is enough space to install huge games or other
apps
> > that may already happily reside somewhere else on your system -
installed
> > via windoze. All the other wine variants have no problem with this.
WineX
> > apparently does.
>
> Not true.
>
> >It would be one thing if winex was functional enough that
> > you could safely remove windoze entirely from your system (that would
be
> > nice) but it clearly isn't (can't run notepad!? C'MON!).
>
> Yes it can.
>
> > I paid my Transgaming subscription fee so I could access their fully
> > functional WineX. The cvs source is freely available but lacks
certain
> > capabilities - which really doesn't bode well since their
"fully-capable"
> > pay-to-download version appears, by all measures I've tried, to be
less
> > capable overall than any other freely available wine. I mean C'MON!
It
> > can't even run mspaint?! How hard is that? It can't handle a very
trivial
> > windoze app and I should trust that it will handle non-trivial, more
> > important apps? ALL other wine variants over the last year (at least)
can
> > handle this simple little test and then run a number of others to
boot.
> > I checked and rechecked the config file...no problems there that I
could
> > see (and of course there is that totaly lack of documentation or
> > instructions too). The first time I installed it, I tried to get
around
> > its insane requirement that it install into your personal HOME
directory
> > instead of ONE install for everyone to access. That didn't work even
> > though by logic it should have. I then uninstalled it, installed
preview-5
> > of codeweavers and viola! Worked like a champ, provides the very
> > informative and friendly configuration process with lots of messages
and
> > information (more than you really need actually). I then uninstalled
it
> > and tried WineX-1.0-3. No worky again on my test apps. Out it went
and
> > back went codeweavers. If I really need it, I can always download a
daily
> > build from winehq and be reasonably certain that it will be more
functional
> > out of the chocks than winex has ever proven to be for me. I paid
money
> > for this (winex). THAT irritates me no end.
>
> I run Return to Castle Wolfenstein in winex, as well as The Sims,
Notepad,
> Calc, Starcraft. Some things work fine, others not at all, or very
> strangely, for example winamp doesn't quite work right, but it does
work.
>
> Have you tried the support forums on Transgaming's web site? I've not
needed
> them, so I have no idea how helpful they can be.
>
>
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