On Tue, 2002-04-02 at 07:21, Dianne Marie Montesa wrote: > heya, > > there is really nothing special about my installation. > its using the mandrake kernel that came with mandrake > 8.1 and its booting on init level 5 (gui login). > everything is off the CD ... after my clean install, i > have updated only the packages listed on the 8.1 > updates (not including the kernel). the updates list > doesnt include KDE updates. > > hmmm, are you saying you dont see /bin/cat on your > opened processes? how do you start kde? ... thru > startx?
I've got the K display manager running, so I login thru it. Enlightenment is running with KDE support right now, and the cat is not there. But earlier after I got your email I went completely into KDE and did a process tree: root@tamriel elx]# pstree -lp init(1)-+-alarmd(2742) |-artsd(2609) |-chronyd(1309) |-crond(1624) |-cupsd(1353) |-devfsd(120) |-dhcpd(1377) |-esd(1841) |-gconfd-1(2189) |-gpm(1567) |-imwheel(2551) |-kapm-idled(4) |-kdeinit(2590) |-kdeinit(2593) |-kdeinit(2596) |-kdeinit(2658) |-kdeinit(2678)-+-kdeinit(2719) | |-kdeinit(2726) | `-kdeinit(2728) |-kdeinit(2724) |-kdeinit(2731) |-kdeinit(2736)---cat(2740) |-kdm(1745)-+-X(1757) | `-kdm(2447)---startkde(2503)-+-ksmserver(2679) | `-xscreensaver(2525) So it looks like when KDE is fully up, I've got a cat on the loose too. The interesting thing is that under pure Enlightenment, kdeinit runs instances of itself whenever I've got a qt app running, but kdeinit---cat never appears. At least not in the snapshots that I've seen. > oh its not really irritating me ... :-) its just > making me pull 3 strands of my hair everytime i do a > 'ps ax' and sees it :-P <grin> Here's something you might find useful. Under pure E with KDE support, I start kwrite, and there's no cat. Then I start kwrited manually, and cat shows as a subprocess under kwrited, not kdeinit. (as your subject line originally intimated) Kwrited survives as long as kwrite is up and dies whenever kwrite dies; but so does cat. It isn't passed to kdeinit, at least not from what I see from the pstree snapshots. So the process tree under pure E with kde support remains clear of cat under normal circumstances. > nope, none that i know of ... i will be installing 8.2 > on a different machine today. if i dont see it > (/bin/cat) on the processes initiated, ill just > upgrade and "forever hold my piece" about this issue > ;) FWIW, it's been interesting to examine this; it's been informative, and now I'm curious myself as to why kdeinit babysits cat continually under pure KDE. I would say it's a handoff, except that it's there before any apps are run. > ciao, > dianne (btw 2 Ns) :-P lol! :) Cheers, LX -- °°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°° Kernel 2.4.8-26mdk Mandrake Linux 8.1 Enlightenment 0.16.5 Evolution 1.02 Registered Linux User #268899 http://counter.li.org/ °°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°° _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
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