On Tue, 2002-04-02 at 07:21, Dianne Marie Montesa wrote:
> heya,
>
> there is really nothing special about my installation.
> its using the mandrake kernel that came with mandrake
> 8.1 and its booting on init level 5 (gui login).
> everything is off the CD ... after my clean install, i
> have updated only the packages listed on the 8.1
> updates (not including the kernel). the updates list
> doesnt include KDE updates.
>
> hmmm, are you saying you dont see /bin/cat on your
> opened processes? how do you start kde? ... thru
> startx?
I've got the K display manager running, so I login thru it.
Enlightenment is running with KDE support right now, and the cat is not
there. But earlier after I got your email I went completely into KDE
and did a process tree:
root@tamriel elx]# pstree -lp
init(1)-+-alarmd(2742)
|-artsd(2609)
|-chronyd(1309)
|-crond(1624)
|-cupsd(1353)
|-devfsd(120)
|-dhcpd(1377)
|-esd(1841)
|-gconfd-1(2189)
|-gpm(1567)
|-imwheel(2551)
|-kapm-idled(4)
|-kdeinit(2590)
|-kdeinit(2593)
|-kdeinit(2596)
|-kdeinit(2658)
|-kdeinit(2678)-+-kdeinit(2719)
| |-kdeinit(2726)
| `-kdeinit(2728)
|-kdeinit(2724)
|-kdeinit(2731)
|-kdeinit(2736)---cat(2740)
|-kdm(1745)-+-X(1757)
| `-kdm(2447)---startkde(2503)-+-ksmserver(2679)
| `-xscreensaver(2525)
So it looks like when KDE is fully up, I've got a cat on the loose too.
The interesting thing is that under pure Enlightenment, kdeinit runs
instances of itself whenever I've got a qt app running, but
kdeinit---cat never appears. At least not in the snapshots that I've
seen.
> oh its not really irritating me ... :-) its just
> making me pull 3 strands of my hair everytime i do a
> 'ps ax' and sees it :-P <grin>
Here's something you might find useful. Under pure E with KDE support,
I start kwrite, and there's no cat. Then I start kwrited manually, and
cat shows as a subprocess under kwrited, not kdeinit. (as your subject line
originally intimated) Kwrited survives as long as kwrite is up and dies
whenever kwrite dies; but so does cat. It isn't passed to kdeinit, at
least not from what I see from the pstree snapshots. So the process
tree under pure E with kde support remains clear of cat under normal
circumstances.
> nope, none that i know of ... i will be installing 8.2
> on a different machine today. if i dont see it
> (/bin/cat) on the processes initiated, ill just
> upgrade and "forever hold my piece" about this issue
> ;)
FWIW, it's been interesting to examine this; it's been informative, and
now I'm curious myself as to why kdeinit babysits cat continually under
pure KDE. I would say it's a handoff, except that it's there before any
apps are run.
> ciao,
> dianne (btw 2 Ns) :-P
lol! :)
Cheers,
LX
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