On 18 May 2002 01:46:00 -0400
Lyvim Xaphir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Fri, 2002-05-17 at 18:29, J. Craig Woods wrote:
>
> > Randy,
> >
> > Your comments are most germane, and tastefully inserted as an addendum
> > in your reply. Unfortunately, the distinction you delineated between
> > newbie and expert list has, over the few years I have been here, pretty
> > much been loss. There are a number of reasons for this to occur. One
> > reason would simply be the subjective nature of differentiating between
> > a "newbie" problem and what constitutes an "expert" problem. I have said
> > it here before, and I'll say it again: I would humbly estimate that
> > about 60 to 70 percent of the postings on this list are within the
> > "newbie" range.
> >
> > If you or others have a subscription to other UNIX type lists, you will
> > readily see how this situation is handled. There are usually a few "list
> > nazis" who do not hesitate to make the newbie feel very uncomfortable
> > about posting a problem that would have been easily solved by a RTFM or
> > STFW.
> >
> > Because the Mandrake expert list is for Mandrake Linux solutions, I
> > believe it will always be as it is: a "kinder, gentler" sort of list.
> > And, as such, you might as well acclimate yourself to the reality that
> > this list is really just an extension to the newbie list...
> >
> > I hope I have engendered some thoughts on this issues, and hopefully we
> > might see some thoughtful responses...
> >
> > Dr John,
> > The Night Tripper
>
> I note with interest the email struggles of others on this thread.
>
> The issue can be distilled down to some basics. First, the primary
> purpose of delineating the lists into two categories is so that you can
> have two categories. The categories are "newbie" and "expert".
>
> While some ambiguity can be assumed, Dr John's masked frustration is
> justified; there are perhaps too many newbie questions on this list, and
> part of the education of any user should be to learn the general
> difference between a newbie and an expert question. I feel that most
> experts here can make that distinction, even if it is something that
> they have not RTFM'ed before themselves.
>
> If it is an interesting question, yet still newbie, it can still be
> posted as an interesting newbie question on the newbie list, which we
> all monitor here anyway. There's not really a need for an interesting
> newbie question to be posted on the expert list. Perhaps the expert
> list should be reserved for interesting expert questions. :)
>
> Please note that I blatantly and lasciviously avoid the issue of OT
> posts. ;)
>
>
> LX
>
hmm.. yeah i think the categories are OK. in fact i never posted a
question to expert, simply because
1) my problems never were soooo hard to solve ( actually they are rather stupid,
being the newbie that i still consider myself to be )
2) in the newbie list you can get answers from experts, just like on expert list.
but, after all, what's the amount of 'really expert' threads in here?
i think this expert list would starve to death if it were only for 'expert' stuff...
obviously it kinda makes me smile when a post to expert contains very simple questions,
and it does make me kinda mad when i get my mails and notice that someone posted a
not-too-hard-to-answer question on both newb and expert...
but hey, this is not unbareable, at least to me, and i think it will stay this way
until some list-nazi comes in here 'enforcing the rules', and that day i'll be
signing off.
just my
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