I've tried to query all of you gurus before regarding various hangs on 
my system, but as far as I can tell, nobody has replied to my question. 
 So, I'll give it a go again.  I've read everything on the mailing list 
that was written in the last three months about system hangs and freezes 
with both 8.1 and 8.2, but none have addressed the problem that I have 
been seeing.  Most have described complete system freezes where nothing 
could be done besides a reboot, but what I am seeing is a bit different.

I have installed 8.2 on a Dell Precision 410 (Pentium III - 500). 
 Everything works fine for a while, and then within a period of 24 to 72 
hours, the system develops a strange disregard for any terminal / shell 
sessions.  Interestingly, I had a similar problem with 7.2 on the same 
model machine, and it went away, but I have no idea what cured it.  The 
strange thing about this is that any current terminal sessions that are 
in progress have no problems, and I can do any normal command-line work 
without problems.  If I am logged into a window manager such as KDE, I 
also have no problem starting applications from icons as long as they do 
not require a shell to begin or to work properly.  If I am using a shell 
when this anomaly occurs, and I try to su to another user, it will try 
to start another shell, but will hang.  At first I thought that the 
problem might be related to something with the network.  But when I am 
waiting for the hanging shell, I can browse the web, etc.  Another 
interesting bit is that I can ssh into the machine, and will be given a 
login prompt, but as soon as ssh tries to invoke a shell, the login hangs.

I am really at a loss as to what the problem might be.  It seems to be 
related to shells acquiring a tty, but I'm not sure about that.  Now 
that I think of it, next time this happens, if I have a terminal open, 
I'll try to do a strace on a new shell session to see where the hangup 
occurs.  Any other ideas would be greatly appreciated.  One other thing 
that might be related is the fact that I've had problems shutting the 
system down cleanly.  The entire shutdown process gets hung up when it 
tries to umount the /net subdirectory.  I turned off amd, and so far 
that seems to have helped, but I only made that change yesterday, so I 
cannot be completely sure.

I'm not sure how experienced some people on this list are with deep 
problems like this.  The silence from the last one leaves me to believe 
that either nobody has a clue or that nobody is interested (because 
nobody else has experienced the same problem -- at least nobody has 
described the same problem).  Either way, if I figure it out, I'll try 
to detail what the problem was and how to resolve it.

Rob





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