faisal gillani wrote:

>Well how can i mount my win2000 ntfs partitions ?
>there arent any ntfs supported partitions in the mount
>command ?
>
>thanks
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Well, the NTFS isn't one filesystem but three mutually incompatible ones 
under the same name.

NTFS4 we have read and experimental write(Winnt4)

NTFS5 is a different system, and conversion is required for NTFS4 (Win2k)

NTFS5.1 is still another version and conversion is required. (WinXP)

All the versions are SECRET and proprietary. Reverse engineering of the 
latter two is _probably_ a violation of the DMCA (Digital Millenium 
Copyright Act) and don't expect a free software company to sign a 
Non-Disclosure Agreement with Microsoft (which Microsoft will not even 
offer) as their licensing agreement has specific language prohibiting 
"IP Impaired" use or basically any app that makes provision to be 
provided in source. This is also true for KDE which is discovering they 
cannot legally provide support for ASF files, even though the format 
_is_ known. Microsoft has also established patent on the "Common 
Internet File System" and again their published standards prohibit use 
to provide compatibility with "IP Impaired" software. They may make a 
legal challenge in the near future to the open source community to cease 
and desist using Samba, which reads and writes the CIFS.

Basically if it isn't in the kernel by now, don't expect to see it any 
time soon. Microsoft is out setting its own standards and erecting 
barriers of secrecy and legal intimidation to keep others from being 
compatible.

ntfs IS supported READ_ONLY for all three versions. There is 
_EXPERIMENTAL_ write support that can be compiled into the lernel for 
NTFS4 ONLY.

Now what I am about to give you cost three hours of my time since the XP 
installer plays with the order of partitions in an existing partition 
table and really destroyed my linux boots, by pointing /var at a swap 
partition and saying my real /var was a swap partition. I reinstalled 
without losing any data, but it took a while to puzzle out what had 
happened.

To all of your others out there, it is no kidding DEADLY to install 
windows second. My recovery here was not for the faint of heart--23 
partitions on two hdds were thoroughly scrambled by XP renumbering. I 
had to rescue boot and find root and edit fstab, and that still didn't 
work because my old /var partition was renumbered where swap was so my 
logs disappeared at swapon... A reinstall was necessary formatting /boot 
/ and /usr fortunately I keep /home /usr/local and /opt separate. I 
could have used expert mode on fdisk to recover--redoing my old 
partition table-- but that still would not have covered the destruction 
of /var.

/dev/hda1 /mnt/windows ntfs ro,user,umask=0 1 1

That will mount and read ntfs systems and it was tested NTFS5.1, so the 
kernel has read-only support for all three, Just drop that (renumbered 
for your system, if necessary), to /etc/fstab, and it will mount and 
support reading from winsux(I have never called it that before, but I 
think I will follow that nomenclature henceforth).

Civileme






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