On Mon, 22 Jul 2002 16:04:59 -0800 civileme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> faisal gillani wrote: > > >Well how can i mount my win2000 ntfs partitions ? > >there arent any ntfs supported partitions in the mount > >command ? > > > >thanks > > > > > >===== > >*^(o)?., ??,.?^(o)*???*? Allah-hu-Akber*^(o)?., ??,.?^(o)*??*? > > > >__________________________________________________ > >Do You Yahoo!? > >Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better > >http://health.yahoo.com > > > > > >-------------------------------------------------------------- > >---------- > > > >Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > >Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > > > Well, the NTFS isn't one filesystem but three mutually > incompatible ones under the same name. > > NTFS4 we have read and experimental write(Winnt4) > > NTFS5 is a different system, and conversion is required for > NTFS4 (Win2k) > > NTFS5.1 is still another version and conversion is required. > (WinXP) > > All the versions are SECRET and proprietary. Reverse engineering > of the latter two is _probably_ a violation of the DMCA (Digital > Millenium Copyright Act) and don't expect a free software > company to sign a Non-Disclosure Agreement with Microsoft (which > Microsoft will not even offer) as their licensing agreement has > specific language prohibiting "IP Impaired" use or basically any > app that makes provision to be provided in source. This is also > true for KDE which is discovering they cannot legally provide > support for ASF files, even though the format _is_ known. > Microsoft has also established patent on the "Common Internet > File System" and again their published standards prohibit use to > provide compatibility with "IP Impaired" software. They may make > a legal challenge in the near future to the open source > community to cease and desist using Samba, which reads and > writes the CIFS. > > Basically if it isn't in the kernel by now, don't expect to see > it any time soon. Microsoft is out setting its own standards and > erecting barriers of secrecy and legal intimidation to keep > others from being compatible. > > ntfs IS supported READ_ONLY for all three versions. There is > _EXPERIMENTAL_ write support that can be compiled into the > lernel for NTFS4 ONLY. > > Now what I am about to give you cost three hours of my time > since the XP installer plays with the order of partitions in an > existing partition table and really destroyed my linux boots, by > pointing /var at a swap partition and saying my real /var was a > swap partition. I reinstalled without losing any data, but it > took a while to puzzle out what had happened. > > To all of your others out there, it is no kidding DEADLY to > install windows second. My recovery here was not for the faint > of heart--23 partitions on two hdds were thoroughly scrambled by > XP renumbering. I had to rescue boot and find root and edit > fstab, and that still didn't work because my old /var partition > was renumbered where swap was so my logs disappeared at > swapon... A reinstall was necessary formatting /boot / and /usr > fortunately I keep /home /usr/local and /opt separate. I could > have used expert mode on fdisk to recover--redoing my old > partition table-- but that still would not have covered the > destruction of /var. > > /dev/hda1 /mnt/windows ntfs ro,user,umask=0 1 1 > > That will mount and read ntfs systems and it was tested NTFS5.1, > so the kernel has read-only support for all three, Just drop > that (renumbered for your system, if necessary), to /etc/fstab, > and it will mount and support reading from winsux(I have never > called it that before, but I think I will follow that > nomenclature henceforth). > > Civileme > Civlilme, First My condolences on the hassles. Shouldn't be allowed to happen to someone as helpful as you. Second ... The new EULA does state that M$ has the right to do anything they want to any software on your computer that will disable, or otherwise render inoperable any non M$ software they find. Unfortunately we now know one of the methods they employ. James
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