on _my_ reading of Pierre's post, (that you clipped, thereby keeping it "out of context) I do't see -any- reason for you to feel as tho he was only speaking to you, Jack Coates. I am only guessing here, and Pierre can stick up for hisself if needed, but it seems to me that he was talking to everyone that just discovered what a "neat tool" bing is and explaining (as you did not previously) that unless you have the rest of the picture, especially when talking about larger pictures (or pipes or bandwidth) it might not be such a good tool.
On Thursday 10 October 2002 11:29 pm, Jack Coates wrote: > On Thu, 2002-10-10 at 19:46, Pierre Fortin wrote: > <snip> > > > <flame> > > > > Folks, > > > > Let's look at the problem in terms of cars and roads... > > > > DSL/Cable: like driving up/down your own driveway... easy to determine > > how may cars you can put on it. > > > > DS-3: like trying to determine the traffic capacity of a freeway by > > sending more cars onto it without knowing the current traffic situation. > > <snip> > > First, you assume that I don't know the current user or bandwidth load > of the circuit, when in fact I know both and am working with my ISP to > troubleshoot a problem. > > <snip> > > > "Tools" like this are unscientific and in an indirect way a DDoS attack > > on the network. > > And second, you assume that bing is in the same class as rape.c. From > the highly edifying man page: > DESCRIPTION > Bing determines bandwidth on a point-to-point link by > sending ICMP ECHO_REQUEST packets and measuring their > roundtrip times for different packet sizes on each end of > the link. > > The actual packet stream used to measure bandwidth on the DS-3 was 3.6 > kbps. > > <snip> > > > </flame> > > > > Pierre > > Thanks for playing!
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