On Fri, 2002-12-13 at 19:53, JOHAM,DAVID (HP-Boise,ex1) wrote:
> 
> I think people have gotten confused about what you are trying to accomplish.
> My understanding is that all you care about is getting java to work in your
> Mozilla browser so that you can run applets. If this is correct, see below.
> If not, feel free to correct me and we'll go from there.
> 
> By way of background:
> 
> Java is a closed-source program. For good or bad, this means Mandrake will
> not distribute it. In place of Java (again for good or bad) Mandrake
> distributes a Free clone of Java called Kaffee. Kaffee is good for what it
> does (non-gui JDK 1.1 stuff) but is totally inappropriate for any modern
> Java application that expects Java 2+ features like the Swing toolkit.
> 
> The problem with this solution is that people think they have Java installed
> (I type "java" at the command line and it comes back, what else do I need?)
> and expect to be able to run the latest and greatest Java programs. Sadly,
> Kaffe (more often than not) doesn't work with those programs and people are
> left to wonder why.
> 
> If you want to run java applets in Mozilla, Kaffee will not work at all
> since it doesn't support (to my knowledge) the Mozilla plugin architecture.
> This means that you will have to download a new JVM.
> 
> The JVM's you can download from SUN *do* contain the necessary plug-ins to
> run Java applications inside Mozilla. However, I don't believe they actually
> install the JRE into your browser. This means that you need to take
> additional steps to install the plugins before you can get applets to work.
> This isn't a hard process and is well documented on the net.
> http://www.brandonhutchinson.com/mozilla_java_plugin.html has some straight
> forward instructions on how to do this for Java 1.4. It will work the same
> (with slightly different paths) for Java 1.3 as well. Even though the
> process isn't very hard, SUN *really* should fix this so that it auto
> installs if they haven't already.
> 
> There is, however, an easier way to install the Java plugin into Mozilla
> directly. Since Mozilla and Netscape use the same plug-in architecture, you
> can download the Netscape-specific java installer and install it into your
> Mozilla browser.
> 
> >From ftp://ftp.netscape.com/pub/netscape6/english/6.2.3/unix/linux22/xpi
> download jre.xpi. It's not small, coming in at around 15Mb. If you are using
> the default version of Mozilla that Mandrake installed for you, you will
> probably need to perform the following steps as root. If you're using a
> version you've downloaded and have in your home directory, you can proceed
> logged in as yourself. Once the file has been downloaded, open Mozilla and
> choose file->open file. Then select "all files (*)" in the "files of type"
> drop down and select the jre.xpi file you just downloaded. It will ask you
> for permission to install the file and once you give it, will do it's magic.
> After that, I would recommend closing and re-opening Mozilla. At that point,
> you should have a fully functional JRE 1.3 installation.
> 
> I don't see any reason now why you would need a JRE 1.4 installation. If for
> some weird reason you do, I'm sure there's a 1.4 JRE xpi on the net
> somewhere. 
> 
> Which process should you follow? It depends on what you want. The xpi method
> is much easier, but it only installs the JRE. If you need Java for other
> things than applets, you may want to try downloading the JDK from SUN and
> then following the instructions to get it bolted into Mozilla.
> 
> I hope this helps. If not, please let us know what else we can do to help!
> 
> Best regards,
> 

Just a quick "Thank-you!" A really helpful summary of what I find to be
a confusing subject (mind you, I'm easily confused."

David

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