On Tue, Jan 21, 2003 at 05:44:38PM +0100, Martin Fahrendorf wrote:
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> Am Dienstag, 21. Januar 2003 17:08 schrieb Ric Tibbetts:
> > On Tue, Jan 21, 2003 at 09:44:52AM -0600, Chuck Burns wrote:
> > > On Tue, January 21 2003 9:26 am, Tibbetts, Ric wrote:
> > > *snip*
> > >
> > > > You can't possibly be suggesting to add filters directly into imap,
> > > > for every user... If you had a system with 1000 users, and they had
> > > > 20 filters each... That's hardly practical. That is why it *IS* the
> > > > job of the client to do it's filtering. If it cannot do it properly,
> > > > find a client that will, there are plenty out there.
> > >
> > > *snip*
> > > That's exactly what he is saying, and it is quite feasible. If your
> > > users want their mail filtered, they can set up their personal
> > > procmail settings in their own home directory, if they dont, then they
> > > dont have to. --
> > > Chuck Burns, Jr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > Agreed. They can. "IF" they have 1) the access, and 2) the ability. Not
> > everyone does.
> >
> > If I were to use the e-Mail address from my ISP for example, I would not
> > be able to do that. I do not have access. I'd have to set up fetch mail
> > on my Linux box, and get the mail from them, and filter it locally. That
> > would only work for one box.
> >
> > What if I had 3 or 4 different laptops that I might carry around. Plus,
> > need to access my mail from nearly any i-net attached client. I'd need
> > to depend on the client to do the filtering. And indeed, many do it
> > right. Mozilla Mail, Netscape Mail, Evolution, etc. If they can't I
> > don't use them. It's that simple. If someone want's me to use their
> > e-Mail client, it needs to properly support IMAP filtering.
> >
> > All the rest is just techno-geek toys. I, and my users, just want to
> > read our mail. I'm not going to go to excessive measures on the servers
> > make that happen. IMAP does the job exceedingly well, and it serves to
> > any client, be it Linux, Mac, or Windows. I can check my mail from any
> > client, anywhere in the world. As long as it properly supports IMAP
> > filtering.
> >
> > People like to diss Netscape. But what other client is out there
> > that properly supports IMAP filtering and will run on ANY OS?!?
> >
> >
> > All that other "stuff" is just more stuff to go wrong, and more stuff to
> > maintain. A straight up, out of the box IMAP server will exactly what I
> > need it to do, with minimum fuss, and muss. Isn't that how this stuff is
> > supposed to work?
> >
> > Ric
>
> Hi Ric,
>
> think a little bit different. Naturally, you can and should be able to use
> the filter from your mozilla, netscape and others. But think of users who
> want to use their web-Mail frontend sometimes and don't want to have all
> the Mails for the mailinglists. Yes, of course, this is only usefull, if
> the user has acces to the filter (with procmail you have to get a real
> accout, with cyrus you can use sieve (build in) and with courier you can
> use the filter build in maildrop).
>
> The best is to get both.
>
> Martin
And thus brings us to the greatest strength of any *nix. There's always
more than one way to get a job done. So you can taylor the solution to
the requirement. ;)
It's really up to the individual to know their requirement, and then
find the solution that's right for them.
Cheers
Ric
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