WOW! That was quite good - thank you for the updates. Like many others on this 
list, I build my own systems, and I learned and worked with this limitation 
for many years, without having checked again with the new stuff I put 
together recently ... to me this was almost like a "given" ... and - combined 
with the fact that I always had the possibility to do it the way I thought 
being right (never had more than two (E)IDE hard drives, or more than two 
CD/DVD/ZIPs in any system, thus no problem in "grouping" them), I never gave 
the issue second thoughts.

But now you made me curious ... I will try some of these on my new systems at 
home ...

Thx again for this great - updated - info ;)
Stef

On Tuesday 21 January 2003 03:15 am, Dave Laird wrote:
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> Good morning, Stef...
>
> I thought enough of what you said to set up a few testing combinations on
> an old Pentium I had downstairs. If my hunch is correct, now that I've
> tried some combinations, I think this is largely dependent upon the type of
> EIDE interface, itself. Some of the older IDE interfaces, particularly
> those that came on a card (remember THEM?) suffered from this problem. An
> older pair of IDE interfaces on a 1998 motherboard had similar problems.
>
> I tried a somewhat esoteric combination of IDE cards, 486 motherboards and
> a pair of old Pentium motherboards, each with approximately the same level
> of failure.
>
> However, on a newer motherboard, particularly with a newer BIOS, the
> problem goes away. Thus far, using a more modern motherboard and BIOS, I
> have been able to get the BIOS to recognize the Zip drive in about every
> position, without regard to the speed of any devices sharing the buss.
>
> In fact, as an update of sorts, so long as I manually mount the zip drive
> thus:
>
> mount -t ext2 /dev/hdd /zip
>
> it works flawlessly, and is very usable. If I don't manually mount the
> device, however, because of some KDE strangeness, it mounts the drive, but
> defaults it to vfat. I'll have to locate where the mount statement occurs
> in KDE's startup scripts and fix it to where it works the same as the
> manual statement (above). All in all, it's working fine now, and the drive
> chain problems that existed on older systems appears to be a thing of the
> past.
>
> Thanks again...
>
> Dave
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