On Wed, 2003-01-29 at 08:18, Dallam Wych wrote:
> > > > I'm not religious, I wish I were. This madman and the options he has
> > > > scare me to death.
> 
> > > > wobo
> 
> I guess that perhaps is the way America and the uk feel when they
> hear your chancellor repetively refer "the german way". Talk about
> scarey stuff, deja vu.

No joke.
 
> > First of all, this is not the right place to discuss this .. but we had many
> > OT-discussions here, why not these...
> Yep, might as well get your two euro's in as well.

Heh.

> > WTF ....... You think war is the only way ? You think US-american have the
> > right for being world-police ? ....
> No, I don't think war is the only way. As for the US-American (sic)
> having the right to be the world police, I don't care much for that
> notion either. I am a firm believer that the US should withdraw from
> NATO and let the europeans deal with their own issues. Might as well
> withdraw from the United Nations as well, as it most certainly as
> become as weak as the United League ever was.

I agree with your statement about the weakness and neutered nature of
the UN.  Too many people have died because of their "inaction", which to
the antilogic of the left seems to be the heroic thing to do these days.

For the same reason however, I feel strongly that many people would die
needlessly by the hands of dictators and terrorist regimes if the US did
retract, similar to the deaths of those that have occurred already under
the stewardship of the UN in the region around and in Iraq by virtue of
the imaginary weapons of mass destruction that the liberals say don't
exist.  In a nutshell, I think the withdrawal of the US from the
international scene would involve the deaths of entire populations of
people, since the UN and the EU are going to do the heroic thing and
stand by doing nothing, like they have for the last 12 years in response
to the Iraqi UN violations, for example.
 
> > >  Germany's histories regarding innocent life are not exactly
> > > something to brag about; however I'm not posting rants regarding Hitler
> > > and the Holocaust and 6 million Jews that were murdered.  Oh yeah, and
> > > the fact that the US was one of the primary forces that put a stop to
> > > it.  Madmen, eh?  yeah, I can certainly talk about some madmen; like the
> > > ones that murder Jews.  However I'm starting to understand why the
> > > Mandrake lists should minimize political talk; because I am extremely
> > > pissed right now.  I suggest that this conversation go elsewhere; like
> > > maybe to my personal inbox, where I will be more than glad to finish
> > > this dance.
> Well, I understand you are mad..as you should be. Perhaps you wish
> you had put things a bit more eloquently :)

Maybe if it was an eloquent thread, perhaps.  But the start of this
thread is one of the most moronic I've ever seen, birthed by me-too
liberal and socialist attitudes, bathed in emotion, and accompanied by a
total lack of regard for factual or historical information.  They are up
there in Oz with the tin man and the flying monkeys looking for a
brain.  Maybe they'll bump into Barbara Streisand while she quotes
Shakespeare or party on with another bogus CNN broadcast while Sean Penn
or Susan Sarandon serves the drinks.  In the meantime I don't mind
trading insult for insult.  By the same token I'm also willing to trade
fact for fact, though that opportunity has been vanishingly small, as it
always is when dealing with the left.

> > How much have you understood what war means ? How much are you informed what
> > people here in germany think ? How much are you interested to understand
> > whats going on in minds here ? I would say THINK BEFORE YOU WRITE !

> I will pass on this, except to ask you this. Wasn't you chancellor
> just returned to power based on the anti-americanism in germany?
> Pretty much sums up the mind set of the voters in that election.
> 
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