This time Vincent Danen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> becomes daring and writes:
> On Sun Feb 09, 2003 at 05:09:06PM -0600, Vox wrote: > >> > succession without a burp. Very odd. I usually find cooker to be >> > quite stable, but I tend to go this cycle: install release version, >> > wait until after cooker has settled down (gcc/glibc upgrades), track >> > cooker during the beta period, do a fresh install when the release >> > is out. I have to have a semi-stable system, and don't sync with >> > cooker daily... so I tend to take this route. Upgrades are really >> > simple even with a fresh install. >> >> That's more or less how I do it too, without the fresh install. I >> track cooker daily until release...then wait out the first 2 or 3 >> weeks after cooker re-opening and keep going on the daily tracking >> until the glibc/gcc/whatever changes start, then I stop till I don't >> get any "need to uninstall this to continue" and go back to daily >> tracking. So far, my box has been behaving well :) > > More adventurous than I... =) Sounds like a good plan tho... I may decide > to continue tracking cooker over the long term this time around... we'll > see. I usually do the base install for a while to test security updates > live... if I can get this UML stuff to work properly, I may not need to do > that anymore (use UML containers instead of testing "live"). I use my mom's computer for testing stuff that should work on release <chuckle> :) I keep her box on current-release always, and keep mine on cooker...that way she gets a stable system and I have a stable release to test stuff on. The rest of the computers here at home either have cooker or debian of some kind (it depends on who lost the coin flip...loser gets to install the box and chose the distro...installer admins the box...and my roommate is a debian user :) Tho the UML idea sounds good to me...I may have to test that one of these days :) >> > Soon I'll be setting up CVS so I can commit the entire /etc >> > directory to CVS then on an upgrade I can do stuff like "cvs co" or >> > "cvs diff" to find the differences. Should be an interesting >> > project. >> >> I've done that when admining the local LUG box with 3 other people, >> that way we could track down and shoot whoever mungled the box ;) It >> works well, for the most part, once you get used to it. > > I'm thinking of an easy way to do upgrades... and of course, sanity checks. > Ie. think of this prior to an upgrade: > > cd /etc > cvs commit > [reboot_installclean] > cd /etc > cvs diff > [check for anything major] > cvs co > > Somewha abbreviated, but you get the idea. I think it would work awesome... > one would just have to get used to the many CVS/ directories. =) Yup, that should work nicely...and being able to go rollback a commit or two to fix mistakes is a good thing too :) >> >> Uhm...I've heard you can run EverCrack on WineX and play well, with >> >> a few details (some sounds or some crap like that...I don't play >> >> EverCrack :) google is your friend :) >> > >> > If I'm going to sit down and play EQ, i want it to work 100%... =) >> > I've >> >> Bah, you addicts are all the same :P > > Well, I wish I was more of an addict. I don't think I've played in two > weeks... Starting to forget I even have it installed... =) hehehe be thankful you don't have the time to become truly addicted...you may end up like the guy who killed himself because he lost everything he had to be able to pay his evercrack addiction :) >> > tried WineX, and while it's ok, doesn't really play to well on my >> > workstation with it's odd dual-head setup (2MB PCI video card and a >> > 16MB AGP). It's caused strange issues for me in the past. So I've >> >> Youch, I didn't know you could play EverCrack with such small >> vidcards...hell, I thought you couldn't play tuxracer with them :) > > I doubt the 2MB card would do any good... IIRC, it's a 2D card as well. The > AGP card should be ok tho. My workstation is definitely not a gaming > machine... (well, it would make a killer gaming machine if I got larger LCDs > and a proper dual-head AGP card with gobs of memory). I kinda just use this > machine for work... =) I'm not much of a gamer either...my last real heavy addiction was the original Diablo...that thing I used to play 5hr a day on bnet...but I've been lucky enough not to get hooked on newer stuff :) >> > got one machine that is a f/t cooker machine that dual-boots win2k. >> > It's helpful for the odd time i need to run win software (not often) >> > or testing stuff like samba. >> >> I haven't had the misfortune of using a winbox in 6+ years :) > > Lucky you.. =) Smart me, my contract for clients explicitly declares that winboxes are against my religion ;) >> > I play WC3 and D2 on my mac, so I'm not worried about that... =) >> >> I want an a-book! :P > > I'm telling ya... Apple makes some sweet hardware. It's a shame it's so > bloody expensive. =( I just saw a 17" G4 aluminum powerbook on ebay, the bid was at 900 bucks after almost 2 days...if I had the money handy, I'd track that sucker and see if I can get it for cheap :) >> > WineX is alright, and it's been cool to play with, but when I play >> > on my Linux workstation, which isn't often, I usually play the older >> > Loki games I've got... except SimCity3000 doesn't want to run on >> > cooker for some reason... haven't explored that one yet tho. >> >> Unfortunately, Loki lived and died during my financial crisis, so I >> never managed to get any of their games :/ I hope somebody comes up >> with a working business doing linux games soon, tho, so I can get >> rid of winex :) > > I hear ya. Much nicer to play stuff native. Heck, people should just start > building games for Win/Mac/Linux. amen! > Hmmm... speaking of which, I'm still waiting for NeverWinter Nights for > Linux (the client). I'm starting to get a little irked with Bioware... I > bought the damn game thinking the Linux client was coming soon, and have > played a total of 30mins on it. I'm starting to think about asking for my > money back, unfortunately it's been so long I doubt they would do > it. =( I'm still waiting for them to launch the linux client...when they do, I'll buy, not before...I want them to *know* that I'm gonna be playing on linux. Vox -- Think of the Linux community as a niche economy isolated by its beliefs. Kind of like the Amish, except that our religion requires us to use _higher_ technology than everyone else. -- Donald B. Marti Jr.
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