On Tuesday 02 September 2003 01:46 pm, lorne wrote:

Okay, 

Maybe a small breakthrough. I transfered the same file both ways. I've not 
even analyzed it yet, but.... there is 25% more frames total (without 
subtracting arps or anything) in the slow than the fast! Not sure yet what 
else I'll dig up.

> On Tuesday 02 September 2003 11:27 am, David Rankin wrote:
> > Mates:
> >
> >     Here is another clue that may help get to the bottom of this. Back in
> > the 7.2 days when Samba 2.0X, 2.1X was comming out, the slow transfer
> > issue appeared with Win98 transfers. The 2 gig limit was also there. The
> > slow transfer from win to mdk was discussed as a "packet fragmentation"
> > or "rabbit pellet packet fragmentation" problem by Civileme. The Samba
> > folks also worked the issue. The issue was evidently resolved for win98,
> > but the same type of problem could have reared its head again.
> >
> >     I tried to do a archive search for this issue, but for some reason
> > the archive search daemon would not connect. Anyway, I would suggest an
> > expert archive search for "packet fragmentation" or "rabbit pellet" to
> > get the history of the issue. M$ may have changed smb just enough to
> > recreate this condition and the Samba folks may have some more work to
> > do.
>
> Very good point. I noticed an awful lot of 1514 frames. Let me go back and
> take another look see. I might have missed something.
>
> BAH... I'm going to do another trace. I'll make it more controlled. Using
> the exact same file so I can make a better comparison. I'm not seeing
> anything the jumps out at me. 1514 frames though. ?? I'll write back.
>
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> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "lorne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 11:45 AM
> > Subject: Re: [expert] Slow SMB file transfers to XP`
> >
> > > On Monday 01 September 2003 08:10 pm, Michael Viron wrote:
> > > > Seems like this is related to the stuff discussed in
> > > > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;321169 and
> >
> > possibly
> >
> > > > in http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;321098 .
> > > >
> > > > You may also want to try running regedit to do the following:
> > > >
> > > > go to "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/Software/Microsoft/Windows/Current
> > > > Version/Explorer/RemoteComputer/NameSpace" in the registry
> > > >
> > > > remove {D6277990-4C6A-11CF-8D87-00AA0060F5BF} .
> > >
> > > First I apologize for not reporting what I found yesterday. I had
> > > already tried the top two things to no avail yesterday. I tried
> > > removing the above key and it made no difference at all. As we speak
> > > I'm transferring 285MB
> >
> > of
> >
> > > data from the Linux box to the XP box and it has been 8 minutes so far
> > > and
> >
> > my
> >
> > > guess is that it will take another 9 - 10 minutes. If I do it from my
> >
> > linux
> >
> > > server and copy it to the xp box, it will blast over in about 2 minutes
> > > or less!!
> > >
> > > > The above key instructs windows to look for scheduled tasks on the pc
> > > > in question (which may slow done browsing by at least 30s).
> > > >
> > > > Also take a look at
> >
> > http://directory.google.com/Top/Computers/Software/Operating_Systems/Wind
> >ow s/Windows_XP/?tc=1
> >
> > > , which includes about a hundred windows xp related
> > >
> > > > sites of tips / tweaks / guides and howtos.
> > > >
> > > > Just some thoughts,
> > >
> > > Thanks a bunch Michael. I've started looking them over. As you know, it
> > > is somewhat like looking for a needle in a haystack. I'm home sick
> > > today, so I'll do some more "googling" to see if someone has come up
> > > with a "fix"
> >
> > for
> >
> > > this.
> > >
> > > If I forgot to mention, SP1 does NOT make a difference for my
> > > particular problem. Also, I'm using mdk 9.1 with out of the box Samba.
> > > Nothing "special". I'm running 100Bt Half duplex hub. XP to XP fast. XP
> > > to ME
> >
> > fast.
> >
> > > Linux to XP fast. XP to Linux slooooowwwww. ??? This one has me
> > > stumped.
> >
> > What
> >
> > > is interesting.... is I swear when I was running older versions of
> >
> > Mandrake I
> >
> > > don't recall this slowness. So even though I've bashed XP, perhaps it
> > > has been premature. I just thought of this.
> > >
> > > > Michael
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Michael Viron
> > > > Core Systems Group
> > > > Simple End User Linux
> > > >
> > > > At 04:30 PM 9/1/2003 -0700, you wrote:
> > > > >On Monday 01 September 2003 03:48 pm, Brant Fitzsimmons wrote:
> > > > >> Greg Meyer wrote:
> > > > >> >On Monday 01 September 2003 03:13 pm, Brant Fitzsimmons wrote:
> > > > >> >>I was the one who asked the question about slow transfers using
> >
> > Samba.
> >
> > > > >> >>I asked on this list and on the newbie list.  Still have not
> >
> > received
> >
> > > > >> >>any answers resolving the issue.
> > > > >> >>
> > > > >> >>When a transfer to or from a Samba box is initiated from a
> > > > >> >> Win2000
> >
> > box
> >
> > > > >> >>it flies.  When the same transfer is initiated from a Samba box
> > > > >> >> to either another Samba box, or to a Win2000 box, it crawls at
> > > > >> >> around
> >
> > 1/3
> >
> > > > >> >>the speed of the Win2000 initiated transfer.  Is this expected
> > > > >> >> behavior?
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >I think the op of this thread had the slowness going the other
> > > > >> > way. Samba to XP is fast, while XP to samba is fast.  In any
> > > > >> > case, it always seems to be a problem with the configuration of
> > > > >> > the windows machines, not the samba machines.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Windows to Samba was only half of my comment.  An incorrect
> > > > >> Windows configuration doesn't explain a slow Samba to Samba
> > > > >> transfer.
> > > > >
> > > > >I would agree from smb to smb, but I really don't believe this is an
> > > > >"incorrect windows configuration" issue. There is a fundamental
> > > > > issue
> >
> > that
> >
> > > > > I believe Microsoft has done to deliberately break or slow samba. I
> >
> > may
> >
> > > > > be wrong, but I've not seen a solution yet. I did read somewhere
> > > > > that
> >
> > you
> >
> > > > > now
> > > >
> > > > no
> > > >
> > > > >longer need netbios resolution for XP to work, but I don't think
> > > > > this
> >
> > is
> >
> > > > > the problem. If anything that would help without a wins server. ??
> > > > >
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