On Tuesday 02 September 2003 06:23 pm, David Rankin wrote:
> Lorne
>
> You got me?? Beyond some tangential knowledge of the past packet
> fragmentation issue and the CIFS protocol, I don't have any rabbits to pull
> out of my hat. As far as smb is concerned it seems M$'s implementation of
> smb(CIFS) is new and unique to XP/2000. I suspect in implementing CIFS for
> XP, M$ has only loosely followed the RFC and has done so by design. The
> site I posted earlier but can't find now, the "ubhix...." something like
> that suggests that the CIFS variety of smb has done just that.
>
I've been suspicious of a change in the way XP does business, but can't put my 
finger on it. I may take my traces to an Extreme engineer and see if he can 
lay his finger on it. 

> I don't have a test machine to confirm what you are seeing, but it sounds
> identical to the samba 2.07 problem that gave win98 fits.
>
> Another site that looks promising is
> http://hr.uoregon.edu/davidrl/samba/samba-optimize.html See 7.2 Socket
> Options. You may be able to either rule in or rule out the fragmentation
> issue by follow the test specified.
>
I am not seeing fragmentation in the trace. It does do things slightly 
differently, but I've had a hard time really dissecting it today. I'm going 
to read and tinker with the above suggestions I think. For now, I'll just 
have to transfer from linux to xp. I use my mdk box more often anyhow. :)
I have the bigger drives in the XP box. Guess I'll just use the XP box for 
storage. hahaha

> Good luck.
>
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>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "lorne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 5:52 PM
> Subject: Re: [expert] Slow SMB file transfers to XP`
>
> > On Tuesday 02 September 2003 03:29 pm, lorne wrote:
> > > On Tuesday 02 September 2003 03:26 pm, lorne wrote:
> > > > On Tuesday 02 September 2003 02:40 pm, David Rankin wrote:
> > > > > See http://www.speedguide.net/read_articles.php?id=157
> >
> > I DID go to a web site to download tweaks. There was a little executable
>
> that
>
> > did allow for increasing the window size. I've not dug back into the
>
> registry
>
> > to see where it made the change, but it has indeed opened up the window
>
> size
>
> > to 62420 now. So now the frame count is the same. That is the good news.
>
> The
>
> > bad news it is just a slow. ??? frame count 9,000 roughly. 65 seconds to
>
> copy
>
> > an 8mb file to linux. From linux to Xp about 5 seconds or less. It went
>
> too
>
> > quickly.
> >
> > > > What is odd about this web site is that even though it says
> > > > 2000/XP... virtually all the settings are specific to XP. XP doesn't
> > > > have those
>
> key
>
> > > > settings. ?? I doubt I want to add those. I can find no reference to
> > > > window size on support.microsoft.com either. Odd.
> > >
> > > OOOPS!! I meant specific to 2000 NOT Xp.
> > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E.
> > > > > RANKIN * BERTIN, PLLC
> > > > > 510 Ochiltree Street
> > > > > Nacogdoches, Texas 75961
> > > > > (936) 715-9333
> > > > > (936) 715-9339 fax
> > > > > --
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "lorne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 4:26 PM
> > > > > Subject: Re: [expert] Slow SMB file transfers to XP`
> > > > >
> > > > > > On Tuesday 02 September 2003 02:04 pm, lorne wrote:
> > > > > > > On Tuesday 02 September 2003 01:46 pm, lorne wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Okay,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Maybe a small breakthrough. I transfered the same file both
>
> ways.
>
> > > > > > > I've
> > > > >
> > > > > not
> > > > >
> > > > > > > even analyzed it yet, but.... there is 25% more frames total
> > > > > > > (without subtracting arps or anything) in the slow than the
>
> fast!
>
> > > > > > > Not sure yet
> > > > >
> > > > > what
> > > > >
> > > > > > > else I'll dig up.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This may prove useful after all. Here is what I've further dug
> > > > > > up.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Fast transfer uses about
> > > > > >
> > > > > > protocols
> > > > > >
> > > > > > nbss 1/4+ total
> > > > > > smb 1/4- total
> > > > > > tcp            1/2 total
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Slow transfers
> > > > > >
> > > > > > nbss 5/8 total
> > > > > > smb 1/16 total
> > > > > > tcp 1/3? total
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Very rough and probably don't add up to 100% but definately some
> > > > >
> > > > > differences.
> > > > >
> > > > > > The thing that just popped up at me was that the slow transfer
>
> from
>
> > > > > > XP
> > > > >
> > > > > window
> > > > >
> > > > > > size of 10220. Linux is using 64240.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Now is this enough for some clever fellow to tell how to modify
> > > > > > Winders?
> >
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