On Tuesday 02 September 2003 10:28 pm, James Sparenberg wrote: > On Tue, 2003-09-02 at 21:34, lorne wrote: > > On Tuesday 02 September 2003 08:09 pm, David Rankin wrote: > > > Well, you're right about there being something suspicious about the way > > > XP does business. Browsing win98 clients is just slow as sh.... you > > > know. That's even after the registry tweaks that are supposed to fix > > > the browse problem. Secondly, MS crippled XP to allow no more than 5 > > > simo network connections rendering it useless as an impromptu file > > > server. I have XP pro at home, but it is also on the same box as linux > > > rendering it useless to test the file transfer issue. There is an > > > answer > > > somewhere...............and let me know when you find out what it is. > > > > Unfortunately with 2 young children, my wife working on her doctorate and > > both of us working full time jobs, it will be one of those things that > > will probably get solved by some clever fellows out there, but I am > > going to send this trace to a real sharp engineer and see if he can > > decode it more than my limited abilities. I'll let everyone know if he > > figures it out. > > > > I can say it only encourages me more to complete the transformation away > > from uncle billie and his gang of thieves. <G> I know... I make good > > money fixing their s#$t, and we will probaby never be 'rid' of them > > but.... I ended up setting up two physical boxes (I hate the slow herky > > jerky of VMware) with a KVM switch. I can switch back and forth between > > XP and Mdk. > > > > I really appreciate everyones ideas. Maybe a microsoft engineer will pop > > in here an decode this mystery for us. hahahah > > and then charge us for it, and send to SCO so they can put it in the > kernel. > hahaha... no... I've been helped so many times in here, I believe in giving back to the community. IF I figure it out. Maybe I should write the samba.org folks. They are pretty clever eh?
> > > -- > > > David C. Rankin > > > Rankin * Bertin, PLLC > > > 510 Ochiltree Street > > > Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 > > > (936) 715-9333 > > > (936) 715-9339 fax > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "lorne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 9:32 PM > > > Subject: Re: [expert] Slow SMB file transfers to XP` > > > > > > > On Tuesday 02 September 2003 06:23 pm, David Rankin wrote: > > > > > Lorne > > > > > > > > > > You got me?? Beyond some tangential knowledge of the past packet > > > > > fragmentation issue and the CIFS protocol, I don't have any rabbits > > > > > to > > > > > > pull > > > > > > > > out of my hat. As far as smb is concerned it seems M$'s > > > > > implementation > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > smb(CIFS) is new and unique to XP/2000. I suspect in implementing > > > > > CIFS > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > XP, M$ has only loosely followed the RFC and has done so by design. > > > > > The site I posted earlier but can't find now, the "ubhix...." > > > > > something like that suggests that the CIFS variety of smb has done > > > > > just that. > > > > > > > > I've been suspicious of a change in the way XP does business, but > > > > can't > > > > > > put my > > > > > > > finger on it. I may take my traces to an Extreme engineer and see if > > > > he > > > > > > can > > > > > > > lay his finger on it. > > > > > > > > > I don't have a test machine to confirm what you are seeing, but it > > > > > > sounds > > > > > > > > identical to the samba 2.07 problem that gave win98 fits. > > > > > > > > > > Another site that looks promising is > > > > > http://hr.uoregon.edu/davidrl/samba/samba-optimize.html See 7.2 > > > > > Socket Options. You may be able to either rule in or rule out the > > > > > fragmentation issue by follow the test specified. > > > > > > > > I am not seeing fragmentation in the trace. It does do things > > > > slightly differently, but I've had a hard time really dissecting it > > > > today. I'm > > > > > > going > > > > > > > to read and tinker with the above suggestions I think. For now, I'll > > > > just have to transfer from linux to xp. I use my mdk box more often > > > > anyhow. :) I have the bigger drives in the XP box. Guess I'll just > > > > use the XP box for storage. hahaha > > > > > > > > > Good luck. > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > David C. Rankin > > > > > Rankin * Bertin, PLLC > > > > > 510 Ochiltree Street > > > > > Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 > > > > > (936) 715-9333 > > > > > (936) 715-9339 fax > > > > > > > > > > For those in Texas - Vote NO to prop 12 on September 13th. They're > > > > > your constitutional rights. You can either vote NO to keep them or > > > > > vote yes > > > > > > (or > > > > > > > > do nothing) and let the insurers and HMO's take them away in the > > > > > name of corporate greed. Your choice. > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: "lorne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 5:52 PM > > > > > Subject: Re: [expert] Slow SMB file transfers to XP` > > > > > > > > > > > On Tuesday 02 September 2003 03:29 pm, lorne wrote: > > > > > > > On Tuesday 02 September 2003 03:26 pm, lorne wrote: > > > > > > > > On Tuesday 02 September 2003 02:40 pm, David Rankin wrote: > > > > > > > > > See http://www.speedguide.net/read_articles.php?id=157 > > > > > > > > > > > > I DID go to a web site to download tweaks. There was a little > > > > > > executable > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > > did allow for increasing the window size. I've not dug back into > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > registry > > > > > > > > > > > to see where it made the change, but it has indeed opened up the > > > > > > window > > > > > > > > size > > > > > > > > > > > to 62420 now. So now the frame count is the same. That is the > > > > > > good > > > > > > news. > > > > > > > > The > > > > > > > > > > > bad news it is just a slow. ??? frame count 9,000 roughly. 65 > > > > > > seconds > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > copy > > > > > > > > > > > an 8mb file to linux. From linux to Xp about 5 seconds or less. > > > > > > It > > > > > > went > > > > > > > > too > > > > > > > > > > > quickly. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What is odd about this web site is that even though it says > > > > > > > > 2000/XP... virtually all the settings are specific to XP. XP > > > > > > doesn't > > > > > > > > > > > have those > > > > > > > > > > key > > > > > > > > > > > > > settings. ?? I doubt I want to add those. I can find no > > > > > > > > reference > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > window size on support.microsoft.com either. Odd. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > OOOPS!! I meant specific to 2000 NOT Xp. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E. > > > > > > > > > RANKIN * BERTIN, PLLC > > > > > > > > > 510 Ochiltree Street > > > > > > > > > Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 > > > > > > > > > (936) 715-9333 > > > > > > > > > (936) 715-9339 fax > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > > > > From: "lorne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 4:26 PM > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [expert] Slow SMB file transfers to XP` > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tuesday 02 September 2003 02:04 pm, lorne wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > On Tuesday 02 September 2003 01:46 pm, lorne wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Okay, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Maybe a small breakthrough. I transfered the same file > > > > > > > > > > > both > > > > > > > > > > ways. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I've > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > even analyzed it yet, but.... there is 25% more frames > > > > > > > > > > > total (without subtracting arps or anything) in the > > > > > > > > > > > slow than the > > > > > > > > > > fast! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Not sure yet > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > what > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > else I'll dig up. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This may prove useful after all. Here is what I've > > > > > > > > > > further dug up. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Fast transfer uses about > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > protocols > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > nbss 1/4+ total > > > > > > > > > > smb 1/4- total > > > > > > > > > > tcp 1/2 total > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Slow transfers > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > nbss 5/8 total > > > > > > > > > > smb 1/16 total > > > > > > > > > > tcp 1/3? total > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Very rough and probably don't add up to 100% but > > > > > > > > > > definately > > > > > > some > > > > > > > > > > > > differences. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The thing that just popped up at me was that the slow > > > > > > > > > > transfer > > > > > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > XP > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > window > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > size of 10220. 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