T. Ribbrock wrote:

On Fri, Sep 12, 2003 at 09:25:05AM -0400, Miark wrote:


On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 14:15:48 +0200, "T. Ribbrock" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



Logical conclusion: Don't buy Mandrake distros at all. Download them,
remove the ads, be happy. As they're getting money that way anyway, I
have even less reason to buy a box, *especially*, as the boxed version
isn't even fully ad-free.


How is that a logical conclusion? Just because MDK has another revenue
source doesn't mean they need your purchases/contributions any less.



Apparently they don't, as they're making purchasing the box less attractive - to me in any case. I was thinking about buying 9.2 (I just tested 9.1, coming from Red Hat, and was reasonably happy with what I saw), but under these circumstances I don't see why. If the boxed version was completely ad-free, I *would* buy it.




If
you want the download version, great, but if you care about MDK you should
still be/continue to be a Club member if your budget allows.



It's a company and I'm not a charity. Make the product worthwhile buying and I buy. As for my bad concience: I don't even have a reason for that anymore, as Mandrake does get money either way now. And if I really want to support something, I rather spend money on true volunteer efforts, like e.g. buying OpenBSD CDs (now there's something I definitely won't download).

Cheerio,

Thomas


I had to post this to Cooker. Apparently it needs to be posted here as well.


Do you ever watch sports? Take the US Open that just wrapped up last weekend.

With the name *J.P. MorganChase* is plastered all over the walls of the courts in Arthur Ash stadium with the *IBM* scoreboard high above the crowd Andy Roddick received the US Open trophy along with a check for $1,000,000 from *Ford Motor Company* while wearing an outfit from *Reebok*. Afterwards you are taken to commercials by *Citizen*, *Heineken*, *Olympus*, *MassMutual*, etc. You can read all about the tournament by going to usopen.org where you will see adds for *Princess Cruises*, *IBM*, *USTA.com*, *American Express*, *Lincoln*(Ford Motor Company), *George Forman*, etc..

Does this mean that the tournament can't support itself without outside involvement even though they are making sales of tickets to the tournament? Not neccesarily. Does it mean that they now what makes money and take advantage of that knowledge. You're damn right it does. Does it mean that they have a bad product? No it doesn't. It means that they are smart enough to use the avenues that are available to them to make as much money as possible. It provides them revenue as well as the sponsors.

When I see this kind of sponsorship for an event I don't get the impressions that this is a sign of a horrible product that needs to be propped up by various thrid parties. I get the impression that people want to be associated with the event because of the benefits of the association.

Is it really a good idea to deny Mandrake the same type of revenue source because of an incorrect impression of advertising?

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Brant Fitzsimmons
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