man chmod
[...]
 chmod never changes the permissions of symbolic
links; the
 chmod system call cannot change their  permissions.  
This
 is  not  a problem since the permissions of symbolic
links
 are never used.  However, for each symbolic link
listed on
 the  command  line,  chmod  changes the permissions
of the
 pointed-to file.   In  contrast,  chmod  ignores 
symbolic
 links encountered during recursive directory
traversals.
[...]

man chgrp
[...]
-h, --no-dereference
       affect symbolic links  instead  of  any 
referenced
       file (available only on systems that can change
the
       ownership of a symlink)
[...]

Hope it can help
Angelo

--- bascule <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> i am confused as to why a chgrp command on a
> symbolic link will change the 
> group of the link and not the target but a chmod
> command on the link will 
> change the mode of the target and leave the link
> alone, i'm sure this isn't 
> what i should expect but this seems so basic that i
> can't believe i have a
> bug,
> the two symbolic links are:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] bascule]$ ls /dev/mix*
> /dev/mixer@  /dev/mixer1@
> 
> bascule
> -- 
> "Zaphod grinned two manic grins, sauntered over to
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> and bought most of it." 
> 
> -- Zaphod in paradise. 
> 
> 
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