I have tried suse 9. I liked it. I did not like the install that you
have to load all of the drivers before you begin. I hate MDK 9.1 have had a
lot of problems with a hp dl360 server. the box just locks up. I tried to
install 9.0 on it but for some reason it just sits there and stays at the
loading program into memory. 9.1 did load into it but would crash the box
sitting idle. Not a good thing.
I really think Mandrake should monitor this group and listen to the
problems that are going on it might help them release a better program. And
yes I can say this since Suse 9.0 and redhat 9.0 installed with out a
problem on the same server and did not lock the box up. Sitting Idle. We are
in the process of considering rolling out Linux for file print share and
also a proxy server. It even has been included in next years budget. I hope
it's mandrake, I am waiting to see if they fix the 9.2 issues.
I really am hoping 9.2 will be a fix for all of the things lacking
in 9.1. I was so disappointed in it. I have used 8.0, 8.1 8.2 and 9.0 all I
liked very much. urpmi is great also.
-----Original Message-----
From: stefmit [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 10:45 AM
To: Mandrake-expert
Subject: [expert] MDK9.2 package arrived - Qs and comments
Hi, fellow MDK-ers. I may be repeating myself, but I am not as much of a MDK
"geek", as a network person trying to use (and paying for it!) the MDK
solution as underlying system for my network and security tools ... this as
an introduction (to point my "end-user" status, if you will, and how many
customers of MDK may perceive the issues) ;)
I pre-ordered and just got the 9.2 package, and I already have some
questions:
1. I have been reading on this list and its archives about tons of problems
with the new release. I have already run into one that some others may have
experienced (doing an online update screwed up afterwards all the menus I
had
in KDE).
[Q] - is there a repository of all the known and still unpatched screw-ups,
on
the MDK web site? And possibly workarounds?
2. I have purchased the Pro-Pack (I think ?!? - it is the one with 9 CDs and
a
workstation DVD), but without the manuals (of course, as I was the one
having
gotten burned before with the purchase of their special "Definitive Manual"
-
which was a piece of worthless paper, falling apart, also). The package and
invoice do not contain any product ID.
[Q] Having paid "something" ($139.95), I was expecting to be able to
register
and get support for the <whatever_time_frame_30_days_?!?>, so I can get to
the main purpose of my install, i.e. trying new tools and recompiling my
stuff. But there is no product ID I could use. Am I wrong assuming that for
the commercial package one would expect some support to begin with? I am
willing and capable of looking and resolving issues on my own, but I have
some (I consider them decent) pre-requisites for things I pay for ... am I
totally off?
3. I used to use easy urpmi's web site to build additional sources for
packages (eventually replacing even the need for CDs). I have tried a couple
of 9.2 ones, from the same http://plf.zarb.org/~nanardon/index.php I have
been using for 9.1, but almost all the variations I have tried had failed
one
way or another (in the middle of updates, or not being able to contact sites
at all, etc.). I am still successful in using the 9.1 ones (with a minor
exception - it looks like my favorite French club-internet.fr source site is
not working anymore with curl, and I have to use wget ... as of a week and a
half ago).
[Q] Does anybody know if the 9.2 is still too "crude" to count on the easy
urpmi repositories of source sites? Are those still unstable for this new
release?
[Overall-Qs] Does this whole 9.2 look really embarrassingly unprofessionally
released to any of you? I have tried Suse/Novell 9.0, while awaiting for my
9.2 MDK package, and I was quite impressed with it ... and the only reason
of
not switching over being their lack of an urpmi-like tool (apt was not
enough
for what I was trying to do). Are we seeing here a Merecedes vs. Renault
difference developing (I used to use both types of cars heavily, while in
Europe, and I have this strange feeling about distributions now, the same
way) ;)?
I sure hope nobody blames the above on my lack of trying to resolve issues
by
researching myself. It is more of a - perhaps unwarranted - little bit
higher
than "figure it out yourself" expectation, from a commercial product.
I apologize for your time spent reading this,
Stef
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