en todo caso yo primero soñaba con ser extrella de rock,.,.,, mas adelante con tocar las goldberg, y hoy en dìa , en obtener cierto merito, cierto respeto , cierta reputacion como compositor de una cosa que no se que es, que se discute y se discute, con promesas para hoy mañana, pero en la realidad, hay tanto para escuchar que ,, bueno .. soy uan estrella, pero .. hay mas estrellas que humanos, y a ellas no les preocupa brillar, a mi no sè ,,, para que hago mùsica?: eso me tiene pensando: que debì haber acpetado el trabajo como mozo de peluquerìa en vez de seguir tan de cerca mi propia inscertidumbre.
los quiere a todosç Oscar Julio desde chile.... con unas ganas ni las hijueputas de volver. 2008/7/2 Juan I Reyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > -------- Forwarded Message -------- > From: renzo filinich orozco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [Expyezp] y sobre el estado del arte > Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 19:54:43 +0000 > > Hola leyendo los puntos de vista de Juan y Julian creo en definitiva es > una mezcla de ambos,es tan simple como ver el trabajo de un escultor que > tiene buen material para trabajar su escurltura y otro del que solo > trabajo con greda y barro.Desde mi punto de vista concuerdo con Julian > de que el tema de la musica ya desde tiempo atras va hacia el doing > yourself!! mas aun ahora que existen Net labels ya el sacar un disco es > cosa de cada dia sin necesidad de salir de tu casa en tu Pc o con un > microfono grabando lo que pase por tu puerta,etc etc... Pero eso igual > conlleva que se cree una especie de catarsis en la estetica compositiva > que es sobre lo que Juan creo plantea un tratamiento adecuado a la hora > de componer y si en ese aspecto la musica tiene mas relevancia que el > "medio",sin dejar de lado que uno igual con pocos elementos puede > generar muchas cosas interesantes...un saludo y un abrazo desde Chile. > Renzo Filinich > www.myspace.com/renzofilinichmetastasis > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To: [email protected] > > Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 15:29:25 -0400 > > Subject: [Expyezp] y sobre el estado del arte > > > > > > En el espíritu del email de Julian hace una semana. > > > > Este artículo del NYT sobre la ecuación de los medios. En otras > > palabras: no son los medios de comunicación lo que importa sino mas > bien > > la música. > > > > > > > ======================================================================== > > > > > > The Media Equation > > Live Music Thrives as CDs Fade > > By DAVID CARR > > Published: June 23, 2008 > > > > A little over a week ago, Patterson Hood, a guitarist and singer in > > the Drive-By Truckers, stood in front of a sleepy but amped noon > crowd > > at Bonnaroo, the music festival in Manchester, Tenn., explaining > > profanely that it was time to, um, wake up. As he kicked into "The > > Righteous Path," a song from the group's new-ish record "Brighter > Than > > Creation's Dark," it was if the space in front of him was filled with > > sunburned bobble-heads, each bouncing in unison to every word: > "Trying > > to hold steady on the righteous path, 80 miles an hour with a > worn-out > > map." > > > > Like much of Bonnaroo, the set was a display of the fealty between > > band and audience so thunderous that you barely hear the sound of a > > dying business. > > > > Yes, the traditional music industry is in the tank — record sales are > > off another 10 percent this year and the Virgin Megastore in Times > > Square is closing, according to a Reuters report, joining a host of > > other record stores. That would seem to be bad news all around for > > music fans — 70,000 of whom showed up in this remote place to watch > > 158 bands play — and for Mr. Hood and his band. > > > > Not so, he says. > > > > "The collapse of the record business has been good for us, if > > anything. It's leveled the playing field in a way where we can keep > > slugging it out and finding our fans," he said while toweling himself > > off after the set. > > > > With their epic Southern rock sounds whose influences range from > > William Faulkner to Lynyrd Skynyrd and the kind of musicians who > don't > > live for a photo shoot, the Drive-By Truckers were never going to be > > record industry darlings. As it is, they have found a sustainable, > > blue-collar business model of rock stardom in which selling concert > > tickets and T-shirts have replaced selling CDs. > > > > "Thank God they can't download those," said Mr. Hood, the son of the > > famed Muscle Shoals Sound Studio bassist David Hood. "They follow us > > from city to city, see the shows, get drunk and buy shirts." > > > > After investing early and continuously in the Web, the Drive-By > > Truckers have a MySpace page with 37,000 friends, offering four songs > > from "Brighter Than Creation's Dark" with almost 800,000 downloads > > alongside a touring schedule that would put James Brown in his prime > > to shame. This week, they will be in five cities and two countries > > (Canada, remember?). > > > > Before file sharing tipped over the music business, bands used to > tour > > in support of a record. Now they tour to get the dough to make a > > record. Cheap recording technology, along with all manner of > > electronic distribution, means that bands don't need to sign with a > > giant recording label to get their music out there. > > > > It has been going on a while. Ani DiFranco, the singer/songwriter, > saw > > the future back in 1991 and skipped signing with a label, making her > > own records instead. "She would tour, endlessly, in her Volkswagen > > bug, and have two envelopes, one for the gig money and one for the > > record money," said Scot Fisher, the manager and president of > > Righteous Babe Records, the label they created. > > > > There are still pop acts that drop a record from on high with the > help > > of a big label and see touring as a nuisance, but Bonnaroo in > > particular is a place where bands and fans have a much closer > > relationship, with direct sales of merchandise and recorded product. > > It can make for intimate ties: a woman in a cowboy hat who was > > carpeted with tattoos was asked the name of a particular song. "I > > don't know what the name is, but I know who it's about," she said, > > with a wink. > > > > In a sure sign of détente between the old and new faces of the > > business, Metallica, which very publicly went after file-sharers with > > corrosive rhetoric and aggressive legal tactics, showed up at > Bonnaroo. > > > > Back in the day, Metallica had good facts — downloaders were stealing > > their work — and a bad argument, one that could not stand up to a > > shift in paradigm where many fans walk around with their entire music > > collection in a shirt pocket. "We support live music," the band's > > singer and guitarist, James Hetfield, told the cheering hordes. > > > > Established bands like Metallica and Pearl Jam, which also played > > Bonnaroo, may have taken some hits on overall sales. But the lower > > (iTunes) and nonexistent (file-sharing) profit margins on recorded > > product are a little easier to take, because ticket prices have > > doubled in the last 10 years, according to Gary Bongiovanni, editor > in > > chief of Pollstar, a trade magazine that covers the live music > industry. > > > > For some bands, like the jam band Umphrey's McGee, some music sales > > are a direct offshoot of the shows. The band reserves five tickets at > > every show for people who want to tape it and also records every set > > with room mikes and the sound board. Three-disc sets are burned on > the > > spot and sold for $20. (Other bands have taken to popping the > > evening's performance onto a thumb drive and selling that to > departing > > fans.) > > > > "If we can break even on a recording, then the rest of the business > > will take care of itself," said Joel Cummins, the keyboard player in > > the band. "I think that the Internet gives us a way of getting > > connected with our fans. We get to make the kind of music we like — > > it's definitely a little more complicated than just three chords and > > the truth — and use a long-tail business model to find and play for > > people who want to see what we can do live." > > > > The buy-share-trade dynamic was visible all over Bonnaroo, whether it > > was food, space in the tent or other substances. To one crusty old > > attendee, it felt a bit like the Yippie camp-in at Spokane that he > > stumbled onto back in 1974. (Speaking of which, when did tie-dye come > > back, and how can we make it go away again?) > > > > But for musicians, the network is all part of the business. Selling > > out, once the death knell for bands seeking credibility, has now > > become an end in itself. > > > > "This is by far our best record, if you ask me, so the tickets for > > shows are doing really well," said Mr. Hood, sounding very much like > > an old label hand. "But then, the gas prices are killing us."he Media > > Equation > > > > E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > _______________________________________________ > > ____ _ _ ___ _ _ ____ ___ ___ > > |___ \/ |__] \_/ |___ / |__] > > |___ _/\_ | | |___ /__ | > > > > Expyezp mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://lists.slow.tk/listinfo.cgi/expyezp-slow.tk > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > Busca desde cualquier página Web con una protección excepcional. > Consigue la Barra de herramientas de Windows Live hoy mismo y > GRATUITAMENTE. 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