2011/8/12 Simon Lindgren <[email protected]>

> Oops, originally sent this directly to Mauricio...
>
> fre 2011-08-12 klockan 10:51 -0500 skrev Mauricio Tellez:
> > Hi, competition is always good and I think f-spot's developers must pay
> > attention to peaple say about shotwell's strenghts and f-spot weakness,
> so
> > here I go:
> >
>
> Sounds like an unfair f-spot vs shotwell to me :)
> That said, f-spot is undermaintained atm.
>
Well, remember that I want to make f-spot better not shotwell, If I want the
oposite, then at shotwell list I woult say: look at the great thinks f-spot
has, and look your mistakes! ;-)

>
>
> > Shotwell strenghts:
> > 1. Speed: The thumbnails displays are lighting fast. I can jump to any
> part
> > of my photo collection and thumbs get displayed almost instantly
> > 2. Multiple photo collection: From the command line I can specify which
> > collection I want to start.
>
> f-spot can do this as well, use
> $ f-spot --basedir $DB_DIR --photodir $PHOTO_DIR
>
Thanks for this tip!

>
> > 3. Export. The facebook plugin works great, I haven't mess with the
> others
> > but this one works as expected (a must for me)
> > 4. Stability. So far, I have not stability issues.
> > 5. Change date
> >
> > F-spot weakness:
> > 1. Low Speed: The thumbnails are slow, if I jump to some point oh my
> > collection, the thumbnails seem to be regenerated. Or if I use the
> window's
> > scroll bar to navigate through thumbnails, I have to stop navigation at
> some
> > point to be able to see the thumbs at that position (again, the thumbs
> looks
> > empty and after 2 o 3 seconds they appear)
>
> f-spot uses the system thumbnails cache from which the images get
> evicted after a while (this time can be changed).
>
> Shotwell uses its own thumbnail directory which is in general considered
> to be a Very Bad ThingĀ®, but has an advantage in this case. IMO it is
> still the wrong way to go, the correct way is to fix the system-wide one
> instead.
>
I follow Josep advice but only the first  2 or 3 "screens" are displayed
fast, if I scroll deeper then I get slow thumbnails (by the way I had a
intel core 2 quad 2.33ghz with 4gb of ram and my collection is 7,325
photos)

>
> > 2. No Multiple photo collection. I can at least 2 uses of this:
> >    a) The Hidden tag hasn't subtags, so if I had a lot of pics there this
> I
> > had trouble finding something. And, what is the point of a tag named
> Hidden
> > if It is visible at the tag structure? I have in there some pics of ex
> > girlfriends, then I show my actual girlfriend some pics of us, but when
> she
> > show the "hidden" tag, she demand to see inside! so hidden do not
> actually
> > hide lol
>
> Tags are tags, not directories, so you can have many of them on each
> photo.
> Organize the photos by your normal tags and then tag the ones you don't
> want to be shown normally with the Hidden tag. If you fear your
> girlfriend is going to find the pics then you better remove them from
> your harddrive altogether ;)
>
> >    b) I want to share f-spot with another person and can't create another
> > account for him
>
> I believe this is a problem with shotwell too, is it not?
>
Not really, I solve this using multiple photo collections, but thanks to
your tip about this, now I can do this with f-spot to :-)

>
> > 3. Export plugins. I use a lot smugmug and facebook to share my photos,
> but
> > suddenly they both stop working (well there is now the smugmug redux),
> but
> > today the facebook plugin isn't working.
>
> This is a weak point, and a symptom of the undermaintained-ness of
> f-spot (since I'm sure they worked at one point).
>
> > 4. Stability. I had several issues here. 1 of 3 times, when I import some
> > pics, f-spot hangs, then I retry the import and everything goes fine.
> Same
> > for export to a
> > folder. Also, sometimes the thumbs do not show, so I have to double click
> a
> >  empty thumbnail to see at what photo I'm positioned.
>
> It's possible that there was an error when generating the thumb, or it
> might be a bug... I have noticed that there seems to be a race or some
> other bug in the thumbnail loading which makes f-spot stop updating the
> ui.
>
> > 5. The date change isn't working for me. I went vacation with my family
> and
> > my sister's camara has the wrong date (something at 1950), when I
> imported
> > this photos, f-spot sorted like the year was 2050, then I try to change
> the
> > date, but with not luck
> >
> > I'm using f-spot for a couple of years and was very happy with it, but I
> > must admit that the weakness I already mention are pissing me off from a
> > months ago, so I hope this weakness change to strengths soon!
> >
>
> Unless I'm mistaken, you've better not change to shotwell, it seems to
> be (almost) as bad! ;)
>
> --
> Simon Lindgren
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