Bill with all due respect to your observations.  This is the SCCA Solo
National Championships that you are ultimately referring to.  I suspect
participation in the Solo National Championship is prestigious enough to
draw a crowd, even if the surface was pig slop.  Regardless of the
surface the competition potential is the same for everyone competing on
the surface; competition is all about learning about the playing field
and getting it to work to your advantage.  The Solo Championships are
moving 2 miles from Forbes Field to Heartland Park.  

The Runoff's are moving 780 miles from Mid-Ohio to Heartland Park and to
date there are about 480 cars entered (only 6 in F500 I might add).
Competition is all about adapting to change and he who adapts best,
quickest is generally the victor.

While the competition surface may be different between Forbes Field and
Heartland Park, the competition will remain a competition and to my mind
the competition is what it is all about...win, lose or DNF.


Chuck McAbee
SEDIV #16

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jan
Schmidt
Sent: Friday, June 16, 2006 11:12
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [F500] HPT Surface Grip - Response


Almost sorry I even brought  the subject up in the first place. However,
now that I am in deep, let me say this. 
I bet that Solo Nationals participation will be down this year, and
after people see how disappointing the surface is,
participation will really be down in 2007. I would hope that a drop
would not occur either year,but I am just making a
prediction.
Bill Schmidt 88 Red Devil Kawi

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/14/06 8:10 PM >>>
Here is Howard Duncan's response to the previous concerns about the
asphalt  
grip at HPT:
 
Jim, 
Several brief comments  to Chuck's emails and those of the F Mod driver:

1.       Everyone should read  Roger Johnson's letter regarding the use
of 
the site relative to course size 
(_http://www.scca.org/garage/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3668&PN=1_ 
(http://www.scca.org/garage/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3668&PN=1) ). 
2.       The site layout used  this past weekend is not representative
of 
what will be used at Nationals due to  a big National race happening at
the same 
time. Specifically, this past weekend  the entire event (course, grid, 
paddock) was located on the pad. Again, see  Roger's letter. 
3.       The same track  consultant as AMP was not used at HPT, nor the
same 
construction folks. The  asphalt is of the same grade as that used on
the 
track, but with some minor  changes to accommodate the laying of such a
vast 
quantity relative to a road way  (track). It is NOT the same grade as
that used in 
other newly paved areas of  HPT, such as access roads. By the way, the
track 
has excellent grip and is  getting better with every race. 
4.       I made four  demonstration runs (staff passengers) on Sunday
near 
mid day using my wife's CS  Miata on some very old and undersized
Kumhos. I 
found the grip to be similar to  other good asphalt lots if you were
anywhere 
close to on line. If you went wide  it got a bit slippery, just as it
always has 
at Forbes, but nothing  extraordinary. 
5.       If someone's primary  motivation to come to Nationals is to
simply 
run on a super grippy surface, as  opposed to the 3 C's (competition, 
camaraderie, community), they may very well  be disappointed as this is
asphalt, not 
concrete. 
6.       HPT is fully aware of  some of the wear issues that cropped up 
during the event and they are addressing  those issues. Relative to what
we have 
endured on the old concrete, these are  very minor issues. Therefore, 
perspective should be  maintained. 
If I have missed  anything, let me know. 
H.   
 
Howard  Duncan


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