In a message dated 8/5/2006 11:20:03 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
<<<While a 6 speed  might mean something to some people,  F500 ought to look 
carefully at more than that.>>>
 

Agreed - there are several issues that drive our poor general  perception.  
However, it is interesting to note that each gear ratio  set for a Hewland is 
$150+.  It's pretty easy to talk about the  comparatively low price of our 
springs, weights, and ramps, as well as the price  of a belt.

<<<In my experience, most people, once they see the  solid rear end and lack 
of 
coils springs and lack of true shocks just shake  their heads and walk 
away.>>>
 
I have a simple answer to that discussion:
 
Shocks for a national-level formula car are ~$5K /set (Penske 8760, et  al).  
Springs are $150/set, and you'll need several different rates at each  end 
for tuning.  It takes days of track time (read $$$) to select your  springs and 
learn to set your shocks; the shocks must also be revalved on a  regular 
basis.  Rear end?  A ring & pinion set for a Hewland is  close to $2K; and the 
whole thing?  Even if you wanted to retain the chain  drive and go to the 
DSR-style diff, you're adding $2K or so, right?  You  would also be adding the 
additional complexity of the independent rear  suspension.
 
Rubber pucks are less than $10 each, and a complete new axle is not much  
more than the cost of a single prepped CV joint.  Granted, it still takes  test 
time to figure out your suspension settings, but the variable count is  
significantly decreased with the F500 suspension.
 
<<<They think: "big, evil handling go-kart that will hurt my  back".>>>
 
Hmmmm.......  Those who think this either don't know much about the  
effective wheel rates used in modern open-wheel cars, or they are comparing to  
production-based options (Miata, et al).  Again, it's an easy conversation  to 
have.


<<<Just as a 6 speed may not be any faster than a CVT, it  doesn't matter a 
bit to them if you are quick with rubber pucks

It is a  perception thing too.>>>


OK, so here's the magic question:
 
F500 is FAR less expensive than FF for the same relative  performance.  We 
all tend to feel that this is a major part of what makes  F500 great.  However, 
is it possible that many of the potential entrants  feel that this is a 
detractor - that somehow it can't be a 'real' open-wheel car  if it didn't cost 
as 
much as a new BMW?  How do we sell around  this?
 



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