It ain't me building a 440, but I can guarantee that you'll be quite surprised .. perhaps even shocked. And it will be fast. As for myself I have better things to do than start an engine program with some old worn out parts from 1970. Just be patient and you'll see who it is.
BTW, you cannot even tune a car with dead tires, as Jim has attested to. Your reference to you trophying Blumenthal's and Kramer's cars are not at all fair. It's the best combo of drivers and their cars that win. If you show up for Nats without having the the best setup you can you cannot expect to trophy. Jan Schmidt wrote: >John, >I am sure I will be flamed for this, but here it goes..... >If I had brand spanking new tires to run Nats with, I might have >improved 5, or 6 places in the final results. Not bad for plunking down >$600. However, If say, I had Blumenthals car or Kramars car to drive at >Nationals (assuming I had a chance to run it in the warmup event), I bet >I could have nipped the last trophy spot, or at least real close to it. >My point is...440s have a distinct disadvantage against the competition. >If I am wrong, then why dont you see a dozen or more 440's running at >Nats. It certainly wouldnt be parts availability, or costs. I bought a >Kawasaki engine off ebay that runs for $150. Try doing that with a 494, >let alone a 493. So, who is the brave soul that is building this killer >Kawi car, anyways? >Bill Schmidt ...tired of being the underdog. > > > >>>>John Whitling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 10/03/06 10:32 AM >>> >>>> >>>> >YOU GUYS ARE CRAZY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! No >way I'm putting 100 lbs of lead in my car for a bunch of lazy Vee >drivers. Our cars are the GCR legal cars. Go bastardize the the Vees >some more. > >BTW, at least all one new solo car is being built for FMod that uases a >440 with a weight break so don't give me the story that a 440 isn't >competitive either. And Bill, you cannot expect to compete with old >tires. > >Jan Schmidt wrote: > > > >>I agree 100% with Jim on this one. It would cost about $50 for lead and >>a couple of bolts. Make the 494's and 493's both weigh 900lbs and leave >>everyone else alone (vees and f440s). There was only 1 F440 in the >>trophies this year and that driver weighs about 130 lbs (lots of >> >> >ballast > > >>in that car). That f440 was the cleanest, most well built F440 I have >>seen in 3 years of playing with these cars. >>Bill Schmidt 88 Red Devil Kawi >> >> >> >> >> >>>>><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 10/03/06 7:26 AM >>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>Bobby, >>As one of the writers of the rules that established F Mod as a budget >>class, we based this class on BOTH the F440/500's AND the SV's while >> >> >the > > >>FV's were the actual afterthought as they were deemed noncompetitive. >>Most of our time was spent writing the SV part of the rules as we just >>said that the F440/500's had to be GCR legal. Later, we found out that >>there was a loophole in that the lighter Solo legal roll bar and >> >> >chassis > > >>stucture could also be used - examples of this are the Dave Phaneuf and >>Art Trier cars. Our prime directive was and is the equity in HP/weight >>ratio of 10 lbs per HP between the F440/500's and the SV. This >> >> >resulted > > >>in the SV engine allowances that would provide an output of roughly 100 >>HP for their 1,000 lb minimum weight. The AMW was the 500cc motor back >>then and produced with a good pipe about 80 hp, so 800 lbs was a good >>minimum weight. >>Now the 494 with a good pipe produces around 90 hp so do we raise the >>F500 weight up to 900 lbs to be true to the prime directive of 10 lbs >>per HP? I propose that weight changes be used to bring equity back >>between the SV's and the F440/500's because it is the cheapest method >> >> >of > > >>doing this and F Mod IS a budget class. >> >>Jim >>Been messing with these cars since 1982 >> >> > >[demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type text/x-vcard which had a >name of jwhit.vcf] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type text/x-vcard which had a name of jwhit.vcf] ________________________________ FormulaCar Magazine - A Proud Supporter of Formula 500 The Official Publication of Junior Formula Car Racing Subscribe Today! www.formulacarmag.com or 519-624-2003 _________________________________ _______________________________________________ F500 mailing list - [email protected] To unsubscribe or change options please visit: http://f500.org/mailman/listinfo/f500 *** Please, DO NOT send unsubscribe requests to the mailing list! ***
